Sedan/SUV for under $50,000
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Lexus RX350 is a great vehicle that's comfortable & bulletproof. No surprises on cost of ownership. My wife has the RX350 that we've had since late '04. She still loves it & isn't in a hurry to replace it. Just did the 90k service & should be good to go for as long as she wants to keep it.
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I have 75K trouble free miles on our Lexus 400h 2006 which we have had for 6 yrs now. It is the Costco car, the going to the fair or concert car, shuttling guests car besides our two P cars. Can park on street, if necessary, w/o worries. Lots of choices for eventual replacement; not thinking anytime soon.
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Touareg, especially TDI. It's like a reasonably priced Cayenne, but better looking and more std equipment.
Sweetie has 2005 (bought it new!) V8. Wish they'd still make it today. 97k miles, and loving it.
Sweetie has 2005 (bought it new!) V8. Wish they'd still make it today. 97k miles, and loving it.
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X3 with M package. a bit lack of power but still sporty, can out run most SUVs on the road in curves (the M package makes a big difference). car is still running solid at 80K miles. not a lot of electronics but that keeps the trouble down as well. Q5 is very nice but was afraid of electronics issues so didn't choice that.
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The interior is in my opinion the finest interior of any SUV on the market right now. The interior runs circles around my Range Rover Sport interior.
The Overland actually has full grain stitched leather all over the dash and doors and real wood inserts.
An Overland with a Hemi V8 will run a hair shy of $50,000.00.
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I looked at the Q5 2.0T, X3, X5d, Cayenne V6, and Touareg TDI. Ended up with an X5d in December; with incentives and discounts, it was just under $50k (~$64k MSRP). With 20" wheels, sport and cold weather packages, and all nav/audio options, any of the others would have been much more expensive, and only the Touareg would have had monster torque. Handles great, and so far averaging ~23 MPG in mixed driving.
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As a vehicle, the Touaregs are great. Esp the older ones (the latest one is very tame in comparison, specifically for off the road.) But although VW is getting better with their reliability, the US VW (VoA) dealer network is horrible. That alone keeps me out of one.
I went to the Acura dealership with a friend of mine (he's looking at the MDX) and checked out the current Acura TL while we were there. The sales guy let me play with it alone for a while. Despite the ugly nose/grill (they did do a nose job for 2012 and it looks a lot better), the car is pretty impressive for a safe, reliable, daily driver. I drove the AWD model with all the options (and bigger motor) and it handled really well with a sports sedan feel. Seats are nice and the car is roomy. Plus it has all the latest media goodies and a great nav system. Nice car, I was impressed. It can be had with all the options for just under $50k MSRP (I didn't ask about any deals.) Big thing is the reliability and the good electronics.
I went to the Acura dealership with a friend of mine (he's looking at the MDX) and checked out the current Acura TL while we were there. The sales guy let me play with it alone for a while. Despite the ugly nose/grill (they did do a nose job for 2012 and it looks a lot better), the car is pretty impressive for a safe, reliable, daily driver. I drove the AWD model with all the options (and bigger motor) and it handled really well with a sports sedan feel. Seats are nice and the car is roomy. Plus it has all the latest media goodies and a great nav system. Nice car, I was impressed. It can be had with all the options for just under $50k MSRP (I didn't ask about any deals.) Big thing is the reliability and the good electronics.
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I looked at the Q5 2.0T, X3, X5d, Cayenne V6, and Touareg TDI. Ended up with an X5d in December; with incentives and discounts, it was just under $50k (~$64k MSRP). With 20" wheels, sport and cold weather packages, and all nav/audio options, any of the others would have been much more expensive, and only the Touareg would have had monster torque. Handles great, and so far averaging ~23 MPG in mixed driving.
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There were incentives from BMW in addition to the Eco Credit, an alternative fuel tax credit, my BMWCCA rebate, and the negotiated price prior to incentives was under dealer invoice. Mine is a lease as well, so I didn't get it for the long term (after many BMWs, I have learned not to own them outside of warranty). I'm hoping the upcoming Porsche Cajun (or whatever they end up calling it) will be a keeper.
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Just my $0.02 on a few of the cars listed above:
1) Lexus RX350/400h. My all time least favorite car. Not comfortable for anyone over 5'10, and absolutely zero driver feel. Super soft suspension and terrible brakes.
2) New Grand Cherokee. Love the looks but driving it sucked. Felt very much like the Lexus to me. Terrible suspension and brakes. The navigation was not very good graphically at all. Steering wheel was great.
3) Audi A4. Love the 2.0T and Quattro. My wife drives one of these and is super happy in the car across the board. Great gas mileage and plenty of power. I love driving it when I can.
Also like the MDX and the Taureg. The new Cayenne looks better but I still don't like the interior.
1) Lexus RX350/400h. My all time least favorite car. Not comfortable for anyone over 5'10, and absolutely zero driver feel. Super soft suspension and terrible brakes.
2) New Grand Cherokee. Love the looks but driving it sucked. Felt very much like the Lexus to me. Terrible suspension and brakes. The navigation was not very good graphically at all. Steering wheel was great.
3) Audi A4. Love the 2.0T and Quattro. My wife drives one of these and is super happy in the car across the board. Great gas mileage and plenty of power. I love driving it when I can.
Also like the MDX and the Taureg. The new Cayenne looks better but I still don't like the interior.
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I would jump at a 2011 Cayenne V6 for $49,500 OTD. What was the MSRP?
I'm looking at this one right now at the local dealer. Will be here in 2 weeks.
Model Cayenne Tiptronic
Order Status ONVESL
Order Type STOCK
Prod Month 8
Cayenne Tiptronic 48,200.00
BDYCLR R6 Sand White .00
TOPCLR R6 Sand White .00
INTERI MA Standard Interior in Black .00
OPTION EXT TPMS .00
OPTION G1G 8spdTipS InclAutoStartStopFunc 3,000.00
OPTION 4A3 Heated Front Seats 525.00
OPTION 7X2 ParkAssist Front and Rear 1,095.00
OPTION 3FE Moonroof 1,190.00
OPTION 8EA Bi-Xenon(TM) Headlights w/PDLS 1,860.00
Total Options 55,870.00
Total Charges 975.00
Total Order 56,845.00
What should be a reasonable offer to the dealer? I've heard guys only getting $500 or 2-3% off as these puppies are in super high demand.
I'm looking at this one right now at the local dealer. Will be here in 2 weeks.
Model Cayenne Tiptronic
Order Status ONVESL
Order Type STOCK
Prod Month 8
Cayenne Tiptronic 48,200.00
BDYCLR R6 Sand White .00
TOPCLR R6 Sand White .00
INTERI MA Standard Interior in Black .00
OPTION EXT TPMS .00
OPTION G1G 8spdTipS InclAutoStartStopFunc 3,000.00
OPTION 4A3 Heated Front Seats 525.00
OPTION 7X2 ParkAssist Front and Rear 1,095.00
OPTION 3FE Moonroof 1,190.00
OPTION 8EA Bi-Xenon(TM) Headlights w/PDLS 1,860.00
Total Options 55,870.00
Total Charges 975.00
Total Order 56,845.00
What should be a reasonable offer to the dealer? I've heard guys only getting $500 or 2-3% off as these puppies are in super high demand.
goodluck tho, they are hard to find....
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I looked at the Q5 2.0T, X3, X5d, Cayenne V6, and Touareg TDI. Ended up with an X5d in December; with incentives and discounts, it was just under $50k (~$64k MSRP). With 20" wheels, sport and cold weather packages, and all nav/audio options, any of the others would have been much more expensive, and only the Touareg would have had monster torque. Handles great, and so far averaging ~23 MPG in mixed driving.