New Porsche Owner - Carrera S
06-12-2011, 08:59 PM
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New Porsche Owner - Carrera S
I'm thrilled to have finally found my C2S and officially move from lifelong Porsche fan to Porsche owner. From the direct shift action, the razor-sharp Sport mode throttle response, to the epic aural experience at full throttle, I'm completely hooked!
2006 Carrera S
CPO
Seal Grey Metallic
Six-Speed Manual
Black Leather
OPTION 640 Sport Chrono Package Plus
OPTION P15 Pwr Comfort Seats w/Driver Mem
OPTION 680 BOSE Surround Sound-System
OPTION 342 Heated Front Seats
OPTION XRR 19" Carrera Sport Wheel
OPTION XSC Porsche Crest in Headrest
OPTION 446 Wheel Caps with Colored Crest
Below are some pics from today's drive, following my early morning detail session capped off with a coat of Menzerna Power Lock Sealant.
The guys at Pacific Porsche gave me a strong trade-in on my BMW 135i and worked the deal on the C2S to my expectation. General Sales manager and POC racer Carl Tofflemire, Sales Manager Mark Taylor and Brand Specialist Cam Noghreh made the buying experience pleasurable and highly professional. If you're in the market, I recommend contacting Pacific Porsche for a very competitive deal.
Also, thanks to forum members simsgw, utkinpol, Mike in CA, Mussl Kar and Magnus B for sharing their insights as to using the 997 in an autocross and track environment. It was their collective "thumbs up" that gave me the impetus to pull the trigger on replacing my BMW with the C2S as my new pride and joy.
I've already submitted applications to join my local POC and PCA chapters and can't wait to get involved with the enthusiast community. Next up will be a set of clear bumper lenses, pedal covers for improved heel-and-toe downshifts and a set of dedicated autocross/track wheels and tires.
I predict a long and satisfying relationship is in the making.
2006 Carrera S
CPO
Seal Grey Metallic
Six-Speed Manual
Black Leather
OPTION 640 Sport Chrono Package Plus
OPTION P15 Pwr Comfort Seats w/Driver Mem
OPTION 680 BOSE Surround Sound-System
OPTION 342 Heated Front Seats
OPTION XRR 19" Carrera Sport Wheel
OPTION XSC Porsche Crest in Headrest
OPTION 446 Wheel Caps with Colored Crest
Below are some pics from today's drive, following my early morning detail session capped off with a coat of Menzerna Power Lock Sealant.
The guys at Pacific Porsche gave me a strong trade-in on my BMW 135i and worked the deal on the C2S to my expectation. General Sales manager and POC racer Carl Tofflemire, Sales Manager Mark Taylor and Brand Specialist Cam Noghreh made the buying experience pleasurable and highly professional. If you're in the market, I recommend contacting Pacific Porsche for a very competitive deal.
Also, thanks to forum members simsgw, utkinpol, Mike in CA, Mussl Kar and Magnus B for sharing their insights as to using the 997 in an autocross and track environment. It was their collective "thumbs up" that gave me the impetus to pull the trigger on replacing my BMW with the C2S as my new pride and joy.
I've already submitted applications to join my local POC and PCA chapters and can't wait to get involved with the enthusiast community. Next up will be a set of clear bumper lenses, pedal covers for improved heel-and-toe downshifts and a set of dedicated autocross/track wheels and tires.
I predict a long and satisfying relationship is in the making.
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06-13-2011, 11:01 AM
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Both have great brakes, but the C2S has a firm pedal feel with no play in the movement, something the 135i can't match. The C2S's steering is much lighter, and getting used to the light front-end is a bit of an adjustment. The 135i's short wheelbase made it a handful in tight, 2nd gear autocross turns. If the steering wheel wasn't straight, the rear-end would want to come out quickly under aggressive throttle usage, while from what I can tell so far (and have read), the C2S has the traction advantage from the massive rear footprint and weight over the rear wheels. I'll explore that aspect soon on track.
The seating position in the C2S is superior, allowing a lower center of gravity, whereas with the 135i, I had the seat as low as it would go and still felt like I was sitting tall. I'm a normally-aspirated guy at heart, and while the 135i is about the best you can get in terms of minimal turbo lag, nothing beats the responsiveness of an N/A setup. A sports car has to have a proper soundtrack to go with the experience, and there the C2S is worlds away from the turbocharged 1's muted engine and exhaust note.
While the 1 is more tuneable (370hp with a simple $800 flash) and can be uncorked for better sound, it'll never match the chassis rigidity, engineering for prolonged track use or superior traction of the 997 platform. It's really not a fair comparison, pitting an $89K Porsche against a $43K BMW, but at the end of the day, the 997 is the genuine article and the measuring stick. However, at CPO prices, it's a realistic conversation.
06-13-2011, 11:58 AM
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Sweet! Be sure to autox as much as you can before tracking the car. Make sure you push it hard enough to spin (but spin in a safe part of the course). *** engine slot car has handling characteristics at and past the limits that are counter intuitive to a BMW. Turn off PSM for autocross. Much easier to learn the limits that way.
06-13-2011, 12:52 PM
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Well, the C2S is a more engaging driving experience. All of the controls and driver interfaces with the Porsche are very direct and mechanical feeling, while the 135i is more synthetic and dampened. The 135i has much more torque and low-end power, while the 997 has the top-end advantage. Around town, the 1 feels faster and would easily embarrass cars with more power. The mag tests show that the C2S has the acceleration edge, but not by much.
Both have great brakes, but the C2S has a firm pedal feel with no play in the movement, something the 135i can't match. The C2S's steering is much lighter, and getting used to the light front-end is a bit of an adjustment. The 135i's short wheelbase made it a handful in tight, 2nd gear autocross turns. If the steering wheel wasn't straight, the rear-end would want to come out quickly under aggressive throttle usage, while from what I can tell so far (and have read), the C2S has the traction advantage from the massive rear footprint and weight over the rear wheels. I'll explore that aspect soon on track.
The seating position in the C2S is superior, allowing a lower center of gravity, whereas with the 135i, I had the seat as low as it would go and still felt like I was sitting tall. I'm a normally-aspirated guy at heart, and while the 135i is about the best you can get in terms of minimal turbo lag, nothing beats the responsiveness of an N/A setup. A sports car has to have a proper soundtrack to go with the experience, and there the C2S is worlds away from the turbocharged 1's muted engine and exhaust note.
While the 1 is more tuneable (370hp with a simple $800 flash) and can be uncorked for better sound, it'll never match the chassis rigidity, engineering for prolonged track use or superior traction of the 997 platform. It's really not a fair comparison, pitting an $89K Porsche against a $43K BMW, but at the end of the day, the 997 is the genuine article and the measuring stick. However, at CPO prices, it's a realistic conversation.
Both have great brakes, but the C2S has a firm pedal feel with no play in the movement, something the 135i can't match. The C2S's steering is much lighter, and getting used to the light front-end is a bit of an adjustment. The 135i's short wheelbase made it a handful in tight, 2nd gear autocross turns. If the steering wheel wasn't straight, the rear-end would want to come out quickly under aggressive throttle usage, while from what I can tell so far (and have read), the C2S has the traction advantage from the massive rear footprint and weight over the rear wheels. I'll explore that aspect soon on track.
The seating position in the C2S is superior, allowing a lower center of gravity, whereas with the 135i, I had the seat as low as it would go and still felt like I was sitting tall. I'm a normally-aspirated guy at heart, and while the 135i is about the best you can get in terms of minimal turbo lag, nothing beats the responsiveness of an N/A setup. A sports car has to have a proper soundtrack to go with the experience, and there the C2S is worlds away from the turbocharged 1's muted engine and exhaust note.
While the 1 is more tuneable (370hp with a simple $800 flash) and can be uncorked for better sound, it'll never match the chassis rigidity, engineering for prolonged track use or superior traction of the 997 platform. It's really not a fair comparison, pitting an $89K Porsche against a $43K BMW, but at the end of the day, the 997 is the genuine article and the measuring stick. However, at CPO prices, it's a realistic conversation.
Got to watch out more for the 135i on the street. I know a 335 can smoke my 330, guess a 135 will burn mine in dust.
06-13-2011, 07:31 PM
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Welcome to the Dark Side, Luke...
Good info re: the BMW/Porsche comparison.
The couple of M3's I've ridden in were really fast, acceleration was very good. You're right, felt a little mushy. Don't let them get the jump, hard to get in front of them if you do.
Glad you got an S, you will be too.
Good info re: the BMW/Porsche comparison.
The couple of M3's I've ridden in were really fast, acceleration was very good. You're right, felt a little mushy. Don't let them get the jump, hard to get in front of them if you do.
Glad you got an S, you will be too.