Would you buy it?... scenario
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Would you buy it?... scenario
Hypothetical scenario - you are looking for a PDK C2S 997.2 used... you find one which is a good price BUT the PDK tranny was swapped early on (not unusual from what I've read here)
Now you have to decide - Get a good deal on this car but suffer in resale value when potential buyers hear that the PDK was changed. It will scare off a lot of could be buyers.
I'm not too keen on the swap myself but I think I could accept it considering the discounted price factor
Thoughts?
Now you have to decide - Get a good deal on this car but suffer in resale value when potential buyers hear that the PDK was changed. It will scare off a lot of could be buyers.
I'm not too keen on the swap myself but I think I could accept it considering the discounted price factor
Thoughts?
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PDK changed under warranty? no issue. Do you plan on getting an extended warranty ? You should not sweat the resale; you should try to get the best possible price now and enjoy the ride....keep it maintained and stay educated on any other 997.2 "issues" when you do go to sell it. An intelligent Pcar buyer would understand; a regular shmoe, unless he asks or finds out, you don't reveal the info.
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i'm not sure why so many people are averse to (major) systems being swapped early in the car's life. to me this means almost 100 likely that it was a factory defect and not abuse. and it's not like theyre replacing it with "the same crappy part" that will fail again - the PDK might have a bug here or there, but it's a proven monster. so as long as it's replaced by a reputable installer, i'm confused why so many see it as a blemish.
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I don't see any problem with a car that's had a factory component, even a major one, replaced by a reputable installer. Depending on why it happened (ie car has not been abused meaning other parts aren't at risk too) getting a new part is an advantage, not a disadvantage. What does confuse me is how you came to the conclusion that having PDK replaced is "not unusual from what I've read here". While there have been a couple of instances of people on this board having serious trouble with their PDKs requiring replacement, the vast majority including myself, have had zero problems. Getting a PDK replaced is very unusual.
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I don't see any problem with a car that's had a factory component, even a major one, replaced by a reputable installer. Depending on why it happened (ie car has not been abused meaning other parts aren't at risk too) getting a new part is an advantage, not a disadvantage. What does confuse me is how you came to the conclusion that having PDK replaced is "not unusual from what I've read here". While there have been a couple of instances of people on this board having serious trouble with their PDKs requiring replacement, the vast majority including myself, have had zero problems. Getting a PDK replaced is very unusual.
fair enough - I probably could have said "not unheard of"
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I like the feedback so far and I'm glad to hear other members with the same viewpoint on this issue
BTW this particular car is at Gossett Motors in TN
http://gossett.porschedealer.com/pre...81469/info.php
BTW this particular car is at Gossett Motors in TN
http://gossett.porschedealer.com/pre...81469/info.php
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Who cares what the resale value is... these cars aren't investments. They depreciate instantly, just about more than any other vehicle on the road. If you're looking for resale value, may I suggest maybe a Honda.
Last edited by rtraviator; Apr 18, 2011 at 09:00 PM.
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someone already took the depreciation hit- how did you determine the pdk was exchanged?
likley when you trade the car out porsche dealerships will know but not penalize you - other brands will not have the information as it should not show up on carfax etc.
BTW i had an 2002 c4s with tip that faulted at less than 100 miles the dealership had a new tranny fedexed and in 2 days i had the car back with a new new transmission! Nobody would really care- its not akin to accident damage
likley when you trade the car out porsche dealerships will know but not penalize you - other brands will not have the information as it should not show up on carfax etc.
BTW i had an 2002 c4s with tip that faulted at less than 100 miles the dealership had a new tranny fedexed and in 2 days i had the car back with a new new transmission! Nobody would really care- its not akin to accident damage
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It was originally purchased and serviced at the current dealership... the salesperson told me that it was the only major service issue that came up... I give him kudos for letting me know upfront before I saw it in the service records
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Not an issue unless shows up on car fax, car proof....then I will reconsider due to potential resale issue.
Ask for copies of these reports from this dealer and if it does not appear, go for it!
Unlikely to show up later...correct me if I am wrong.
Ask for copies of these reports from this dealer and if it does not appear, go for it!
Unlikely to show up later...correct me if I am wrong.
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PDK changed under warranty? no issue. Do you plan on getting an extended warranty ? You should not sweat the resale; you should try to get the best possible price now and enjoy the ride....keep it maintained and stay educated on any other 997.2 "issues" when you do go to sell it. An intelligent Pcar buyer would understand; a regular shmoe, unless he asks or finds out, you don't reveal the info.
PDK replace not for me, this is not a "normal" problem.
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With only 6500 miles my PDK transmission will be changed next week under warranty
My car is a C4S, 2009
I don't like this, but on the other hand, I will now have a new transmission since next week. It's like getting a partial new car !
My car is a C4S, 2009
I don't like this, but on the other hand, I will now have a new transmission since next week. It's like getting a partial new car !
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My Jaguar XKR was one of the first to be produced and in the course of its first two years it needed replacement brakes, steering, suspension and just after the handbrake came off in my hand the engine finally blew up (the gearbox was fine - it was bought in from Germany).
For the next 4 years before I sold the car it ran like a dream and I never stressed about all the replacement work. Just put it down to teething troubles and British workmanship (relax, I'm a Brit).
"Your friend" shouldn't blink twice before buying your hypothetical car, even if it turned out to be real, and especially if it's priced to sell. Go for it.
For the next 4 years before I sold the car it ran like a dream and I never stressed about all the replacement work. Just put it down to teething troubles and British workmanship (relax, I'm a Brit).
"Your friend" shouldn't blink twice before buying your hypothetical car, even if it turned out to be real, and especially if it's priced to sell. Go for it.