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Old 03-01-2011 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by foreplay
Z356,

I am curious as to why you are posting the same thread all over the internet. Myself and a friend are members of many car enthusiast forums and continue to find you posting this same questions all over the internet regardless of whether or not it has been discussed already or not????? Put a question into my mind as to why you are doing it ALL OVER THE INTERNET?

Listen both K40 and Escort and V1 all have something to offer it is up to you as to what you want. Here are the biggest differencies between them all.

1. K40 offers both fron and rear radar receivers/Escort does not / V1 Does not
2. Escort and V1 have optional displays / K40 is hidden and controlled with remote
3. Both K40 and Escort have GPS features / V1 does not
4. All have 1 year warranty / K40 also has 1 year speeding ticket guarantee

any of them will prevent you from getting a ticket

check these links out I found then very informational

http://www.laserjammertests.com/k40laserdefuserex2.htm

http://www.teamspeed.com/forums/car-...-detector.html
2 posts, joined yesterday, and in complete defense of the K40 as its being thrown under the bus by a large majority. Hmmmmm....
Old 03-01-2011 | 10:44 AM
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I have a V1 but man is it getting old. Would love to have it in a smaller/lighter package with some LCD/LED type display. With technology the way it is, there's no reason for the lack of upgrades for the V1.
Old 03-01-2011 | 10:09 PM
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Gravedgr,

I dont believe I ran to the defense of any radar mfg. I simply offer the known differences between the two and listed a couple helpful links about the radar in action and test done on all laser jammers. I personally drive with both the V1 and the K40 RL360 never had the 9500ci but I can attest to this the K40 definately beats the V1 in both features and detection. I have friends who have the 9500ci also and love it. I think it is up to you what you want Z356.
Old 03-02-2011 | 03:11 AM
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Clearly there's a disconnect between what should be good in theory and what is good in practice.

In prinicple (based on 3rd party "testing") the K40 should be a poor performer. In practice it is excellent.

In theory the V1, based upon its range etc., should be an excellent performer. In practice it fails to live up to its reputation.
Old 03-02-2011 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by foreplay
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I dont believe I ran to the defense of any radar mfg. I simply offer the known differences between the two and listed a couple helpful links about the radar in action and test done on all laser jammers. I personally drive with both the V1 and the K40 RL360 never had the 9500ci but I can attest to this the K40 definately beats the V1 in both features and detection. I have friends who have the 9500ci also and love it. I think it is up to you what you want Z356.
So what you're saying is that if you were a prospective buyer, you would NOT be suspicious of advice from someone who joins a forum just to post positive information about a product in a thread where the majority have spoken negatively about it? You would not find that suspicious? You'd just take the advice of this random K40 advocate?
Old 03-02-2011 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by boolala
Clearly there's a disconnect between what should be good in theory and what is good in practice.

In prinicple (based on 3rd party "testing") the K40 should be a poor performer. In practice it is excellent.

In theory the V1, based upon its range etc., should be an excellent performer. In practice it fails to live up to its reputation.
Not according to the people where who own it - you seem to be the exception. Product failure is more concrete evidence than absence of product failure.
Old 03-02-2011 | 01:22 PM
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I beg to differ. Very few people have claimed that they have gotten a ticket with the K40. Quite a few people have admitted to getting ticketed with the V1 and I provided a link to that.
Old 03-02-2011 | 08:58 PM
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Gravedgr,

I assure you I am just a driver like you. Looking on the internet I did find this though, I found it to be extremely interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paen1gf_NW4
Old 03-02-2011 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by boolala
I beg to differ. Very few people have claimed that they have gotten a ticket with the K40. Quite a few people have admitted to getting ticketed with the V1 and I provided a link to that.
LOL, really now?!? May I suggest a course in reading comprehension. Here are the negative reviews in this thread alone:

Originally Posted by cbzzoom
BTW I guess it wasn't clear, I have a K40 (previous owner installed) and a Valentine in my car, so I can literally watch the signals that the V1 picks up and the K40 doesn't. Seriously, if you actually compare them side by side you will see how poor the radar technology in the K40 is.
Originally Posted by Mark Harris
I drove my new to me 997 from the dealership in CT to my home in KS. Previous owner had a K40 installed. Similar to cbzzoom; that enabled me to do a 1200+ mile side by side comparison.

First thing I did when I got home was remove the K40 system. It is a total POS. The V1 outperformed the K40 system every time. The rear jammer head failed to diffuse lidar from a Hwy patrolman sitting on an on ramp and I got a ticket.
Originally Posted by 993 Guy
I have had these questions for years and owned every detector from K40's to V1's to the latest Escort units.

My 993 Turbo has a K40 as I bought it with it already installed. I can tell you unequivocally that it is the worst radar detection unit I have ever owned. I literally turned it off completely and hard wired a V1 into the car as I did a comparison and it wasn't even close.

I went as far as reaching out to K40 for new radar units as I couldn't believe that there could be such a difference. Guess what...didn't change a thing.
Originally Posted by scosurf
I had a 993 turbo with k40 hardwired from po. I have v1 in other cars, the only ticket i have gotten was with the k40, i would not go with the k40!!!!
Originally Posted by luvair
My 911 came with the K40 and like others said, the V1 is far superior.
Originally Posted by TomGT3
BTW, the K40 that came installed in my car is coming out for a 9500ci or V1+laser protection. My old Escort 8500 works better than the K40.
BTW, I couldn't find any positive ones other than yours and our mystery supporter.

Did you ACTUALLY read this thread?
Old 03-02-2011 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by foreplay
Gravedgr,

I assure you I am just a driver like you. Looking on the internet I did find this though, I found it to be extremely interesting.
I noticed you avoided my question.

Originally Posted by gravedgr
So what you're saying is that if you were a prospective buyer, you would NOT be suspicious of advice from someone who joins a forum just to post positive information about a product in a thread where the majority have spoken negatively about it? You would not find that suspicious? You'd just take the advice of this random K40 advocate?
Old 03-03-2011 | 01:32 AM
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I want to thank everyone who took the time to post their actual experiences with one or the other system I was considering. I elected to go with a Passport 9500ci and I hope it will be installed next week in my 997.1. Foreplay, you can now go back to what ever you were doing before you parachuted into this forum with your marketing videos and your objectionable 'attitude'. Tell your bosses it didn't work. Saludos, z356
Old 03-03-2011 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by gravedgr
LOL, really now?!? May I suggest a course in reading comprehension. Here are the negative reviews in this thread alone:
You're the one who has problem with reading comprehension.

One person you quoted claimed he was ticketed with the K40 and one was hit with laser which the V1 will do exactly NOTHING to protect you from anyway. The others simply stated that they felt that the V1 was a better detector. As I have pointed out before merely having greater sensitivity may actually be a disadvantage as it is more likely to give you false positives.

Did you read the link I provided of the half dozen people who were ticketed with the V1? I guess not. Go back and look at it. That thread is a year old and since then several other people have admitted to getting ticketed in spite of the V1.

I have no vested interest in K40. I've had it for 5 years and during that time I have gotten zero tickets and, as I've stated before, have found myself doing 75 in a 55 while being targeted by laser with no consequence.

Incidentally I would like to ask the people who claim they have been ticketed with the K40 whether they made application to the company to pay for their speeding ticket which they promise to do. Since this was never mentioned by anybody I have a strong suspicion that the people who claim that they were ticketed with the K40 are lying. OTOH the proponents of the V1 have no incentive to lie as they still support the product and, instead make lame excuses as to why this happened.
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Originally Posted by foreplay
Gravedgr,

I assure you I am just a driver like you. Looking on the internet I did find this though, I found it to be extremely interesting.
Looks like the K40 outperformed the V1 even though its detector is siutated lower on the vehicle placing it at a disadvantage.

Of course people here will vigorously deny this but you have some rather entrenched attitudes here.
Old 03-03-2011 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by boolala
Incidentally I would like to ask the people who claim they have been ticketed with the K40 whether they made application to the company to pay for their speeding ticket which they promise to do. Since this was never mentioned by anybody I have a strong suspicion that the people who claim that they were ticketed with the K40 are lying. OTOH the proponents of the V1 have no incentive to lie as they still support the product and, instead make lame excuses as to why this happened.
Lying? Really boolala. I shouldn't even reply to such a childish accusation but yes I did call those ***** in IL the minute I got home. The guarantee is for 1 year and only applies to the original purchaser.

It even gets better. I was transferred to another guy at K40 who asked how I was ticketed. I told him I was hit by Lidar from behind when a LEO was sitting on an on ramp to the Interstate and that the rear diffuser obviously did not function properly.

His response. "Most states have warned officers that this practice is unsafe and have advised their officers to discontinue this practice."

Oh, well there you go....thank you for that. I feel much better now. I think it was shortly after that phone call that I proceed to the garage and removed the system.
Old 03-03-2011 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by boolala
Your points are unassailable, sir. I submit to your superior argument.


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