limey940

Im looking to install one of the integrated units thats hidden in my truck. This is the type of unit where the installer puts the remote unit in the dash and you cant see the radar units or laser blinders. Does anyone have a recomendation. I dont want a rehash of the escort v valentine debate, this is a different type of unit.

thanks a lot

crw

I installed the Escort 9500ci in my Porsche.

Works great, no false alarms, and after 1 year of use very happy with it.

I bought mine off EBAY for $690 and installed in myself.

91469972

Escort is having a Cyber Monday today! I have an Escort and it is great.

limey940

Thanks Guys
I have the 9500ix in my P car, im looking at the totally integretaed unit that is hidden, hust bought the 9500 CI from escort, includes laser blockers, will see how that works on upcoming x country trip and may upgrade the 9500 in my p car to one
thanks

Mark Harris

I just purchased a 997.1 in CT that had a K40 custom installed jammer/detector. I drove it 1200 miles home and also used my V1 at the same time to get a good comparision. I think the previous owner spent $2K on it and to answer your question the first thing I did when I got home was remove the K40 system.

Total POS. In my previous P car I had a Blinder M25 jammer and along with a V1 was a perfect combination.

I understand why people want the totally stealth install but it's a huge sacrifice. My Blinder was 99% stealth except for the heads up front which any custom install will have.

To me it is pretty simple. A K40 or other brand of detector/jammer that has the head mounted in the grill/bumper is TOO LOW to pick up radar in advance when compared to a unit mounted up by the visor. Also IMHO you need more than one head to be sure you will jam LIDAR.

The K40 heads both up front and behind for both the light emitting LIDAR jammer and receiver for radar signals were smaller than the head(s) of my Blinder jammer. Therefore it's simple to discern that any intergrated system that has both light emmitting LIDAR and radar detection in one head is a compromise to an adequate jammer head.

To sum it all up I got a ticket from a Highway Patrolman on my trip home. He tagged me from behind while sitting on an on ramp using LIDAR. The K40 went off but obviously the inadequate light emitting head below my rear license plate was not enough to jam his signal.

I have had enough previous "seat of the pants" experiences when a jammer works and they are great. Typically you never see the LEO because with LIDAR they have to be stationary and are often on motorcyles or hiding.

When it goes off you sh#t yourself and hammer the brakes. By that time you are passing them and can witness their confusion about why he didn't get a reading. It all happens in about 20 seconds and is a true rush if you into that kind of stuff.

I will be reinstalling my Blinder in my 997.1 and hardwire my V1 up high by the visor/rearview mirror.

1crazy canuck

Please post links / pics of your install and particularly this blinder thing. Never heard of it. It works that well ?

Mark Harris

No affiliation. This website will answer 95% of your questions.

http://www.guysoflidar.com/

Jamming LIDAR is illegal in 9 states and I have no idea about Canada. Happens that those 9 states are nowhere near me and yes it works that well.

With radar detectors you have zero defense against LIDAR. It's instant on and you are cooked unless you jam the signal before going back to them. Below is a picture of one of the two Blinder heads mounted in my bumper on my old 993.

PHX 911

I have a K40 (Calibre) unit in my car. Front and rear radar detection, and front laser jamming. It is awesome, and has saved my butt a few times.
Concerning the mounting of the detection units and their height (bumper vs. windshield) it makes no difference at all. At 100 yards, the beam from a radar gun is 60 feet wide - a huge dispersion, thus no matter the height of the detector.
Laser is a different story, obviously, and your tactics are completely different. Since the bear is somewhat accustomed to not getting a fix right away, you're simply trying to slow to a legal speed while jamming, then turn your jamming off so he gets a read on you. This is where the remote for the K40 system is awesome. Get a yelp, slow, disable with 1 button, smile as you go by

limey940

Thanks, i love my escort 9500 ix with 2 x blinders up front, no tickets with this combo, saved me plenty of times.
Im going with the escort Ci, with 3 laser jammers, GPS etc etc. Im going to speak to my installer to see how high he can put the radar detctor component, since its on my truck it should be easier to get it higher than my P car.
thanks

Mark Harris

Sounds great. I agree with the truck height and the difference that will make.

The issue coming home from CT and a 1200 mile side by side test was that the Valentine would pick up X & K band earlier everytime and sometimes as much as a mile before the K40. To further confirm when I would pass the LEO the Valentine would continue to pick up signals and the back arrow would flash long after the K40 voice stopped saying "rear K band" "rear K band".

boolala

I have the K40 and no tickets in 5 years.

Someone once previously stated that he had both the K40 and V1 and while comparing them side by side claimed that he would have gotten 3 tickets in one afternoon alone with the K40. What a lying POS.

Anyway if anyone would care I can post testimonials of many people who have gotten tickets here on RL with the V1. Since I last posted my list there have been others.

And those are just the ones who admit to it.

And, no, I have no financial interest in either company. Just interested in setting the record straight.

PHX 911

here's a good link for you: speedtraphunter.net

If you'll take the time to educate yourself, you'll discover you're being given poor advice in regards to positioning detectors, i.e. the higher the better. That's absolutely WRONG, and will likey render any laser jamming useless. Laser jamming should be close to your license plate and headlights - 2 very reflective surfaces the cops like to target with their guns. Ideally, you put the detector/jammer where the cops point.
There are recommendations to tilt the V1 DOWN on a windshield mount to have a better chance at laser detection, which compromises rear detection.
Radar doesn't matter, as it's beam is huge and widely dispersed, bounces, etc. and is easily detectable no matter where you put your detector.

Mark Harris

I received a ticket using a V along with the installed K40 on my inaugural drive home as clearly stated in my above post. I think we would all agree that no matter how much money one spends on any brand regardless of where it is mounted that the inherit risk of getting a ticket always exists when we make a conscious decision to take the risk.

I suppose I am simply drawn to the whole cat and mouse aspect of the game.

I'm glad that the K40 system has worked well for you over the past five years and if I offended anyone that uses that system I apologize as that was not my intent and my wording was probably too harsh.

Regards,

limey940

If you took the time to read and digest my note you would see that im talking about the radar detector head, the laser blinders will be positioned correctly as they are in my porsche. btw - you have your opinion about the position of the radar detector, i disagree, higher def helps and i think that it also assist in "seeing" over hills

cheers

limey940

From http://www.guysoflidar.com/

High mounting
Good for Radar: higher mounting gives you more "line-of-sight" with the targeting radar. If you do the math, one foot higher mounting gives you an few tenths of a mile extra, maybe even more than 1/2 mile. The average driver isn't likely to notice such a small difference in range, but it might help out in a pinch (detecting brief instant-on at long range)


Good for detecting laser targeting vehicles ahead, since it can "see" through their windows better etc.


Bad for detecting laser targeting you, since it is mounted further from the aiming point (front plate/headlight).


so, i dont really care about dettecting laser since i have blockers, so higher is better (in there view for radar detection)
thanks