Front break pads nearly worn out. Dealer says $1,200 to fix it.
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Sounds like the service manager was a star student in the seminar on "How to maximize profits on a routine service matter " .
Why not change the windshield next time the wipers wear out ?
I call B.S.
Why not change the windshield next time the wipers wear out ?
I call B.S.
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"You have to replace the rotors with the pads" is standard BS on P-cars.
The funny thing is as soon as you tell one of these mechanics that you're just gonna replace the pads yourself they instantly back-track and agree that's fine you don't have to do the rotors and they can do just the pads for you...
Obviously as Libr says, for safety you should inspect the rotors, but if you don't track / depending on driving conditions, rotors can go for 60k miles or so.
The funny thing is as soon as you tell one of these mechanics that you're just gonna replace the pads yourself they instantly back-track and agree that's fine you don't have to do the rotors and they can do just the pads for you...
Obviously as Libr says, for safety you should inspect the rotors, but if you don't track / depending on driving conditions, rotors can go for 60k miles or so.
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This would also fall into the " I didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday" category...but it appears to be true.
The Bugatti uses tailor made tires which manufacturers advise you replace every 2500 miles. Replacing the tyres will set you back about $10 000 - EACH! That's $40 000 per set of tyres. The manufactures of the Bugatti Veyron (who clearly think money grows on trees) also advise that you replace the cars wheels every fourth tyre change to ensure optimal performance and safety.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Can-You-Af...ot!&id=3691616
The Bugatti uses tailor made tires which manufacturers advise you replace every 2500 miles. Replacing the tyres will set you back about $10 000 - EACH! That's $40 000 per set of tyres. The manufactures of the Bugatti Veyron (who clearly think money grows on trees) also advise that you replace the cars wheels every fourth tyre change to ensure optimal performance and safety.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Can-You-Af...ot!&id=3691616
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Light should be coming on in 200-300 miles I was told. New rotors, calipers and all sorts of things in the quote. Not because anything is damaged but because "it's the only way to do it". Is it? Much of the entire break assembly has to be replaced each time the pads wear down? New service manager btw.
Also, can you post a pic of your pads and rotors? We can then say how much life it might have left.
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Exactly the same thing happened to me on my 2006 benz ... Idealer quoted $1500 for pads and rotors... I said screw you, bought pads and did a DIY (rotors had enough life) ... It went perfect however, the brakes used to squeak ... so bottom line you might hear squeaks right before stopping ... Also the benz had an SBC pump that actuates the pads when car's unlocked or door is opened, it was advised to de-activate the pump using star diagnostics (which I obviously didn't have) or there's a chance you'd lose a finger if caught inbetween ... I simply put the car key ontop a shelf and removed the battery terminal
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At the other end of the spectrum, the indie mechanic who fixes my '02 Range Rover noted I had 15% left on my rear pads, and the rotors' thickness was under tolerance, so they would need to be replaced. There being no sensor, he suggested I just drive it until the pads are gone, i.e., when I start hearing scraping, and then bring it in right away. 6 months later still going fine.
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Let's hope someone misquoted the caliper change to the OP. As most have stated if the rotors are still in spec for thickness and cracks I'd only do the pads. I've followed this pattern on every Porsche I've owned.
If the rotors are out of spec in runout you would likely get some vibration through the brake pedal.
If the rotors are out of spec in runout you would likely get some vibration through the brake pedal.
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Buy the pads and DIY. Pads can be bought from many suppliers other than OEM Porsche boxed pads.
The rotors have the minimum thickness stamped into the casting. If you can rotate your own wheels you can do your own brake pads. check the forums for this and to do your own brake bleeding (every two years for a car that does not see the track)
The rotors have the minimum thickness stamped into the casting. If you can rotate your own wheels you can do your own brake pads. check the forums for this and to do your own brake bleeding (every two years for a car that does not see the track)
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Thanks to all for your input. Really appreciate it. I'm having an indy check the rotor thickness next week and will go from there. Looking to sell or trade which is why I'm trying to avoid luxury spending while still keeping the car safe and sound. If it needs rotors, I'll buy em'. Oh...the caliper inclusion was obviously in error. I got the quote from the service manager over the phone and he actually did include those in the $1,200 quote. Another reason to step back and take another look.
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sandwedge....not sure where in Florida you are but I'm in the south east Tampa area....if you get the pads I'll show you how to swap them out.
I swap out my stock pads for race pads every month...back and forth...for my track events. It is really simple. Years ago I had the head tech at my Porsche dealer show me how to do it.....pad, rotor and brake flush or bleed is so simple in these cars.
I swap out my stock pads for race pads every month...back and forth...for my track events. It is really simple. Years ago I had the head tech at my Porsche dealer show me how to do it.....pad, rotor and brake flush or bleed is so simple in these cars.
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Actually the rotors do get worn down by the pads. Most modern high performance cars have rather soft metal rotors. They absolutely wear down, hence the need to replace. But usually can go through two sets of pads before the rotor is out of spec.