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Old 11-03-2010 | 01:44 PM
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Old 11-03-2010 | 01:51 PM
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Oh brother....may the naysaying begin!
Old 11-03-2010 | 02:36 PM
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Wow! First shot of the rear wing, looks HUGE! Must be great for high speed tracks!

Also, it looks like that Front and rear wheels have different sizes. The first 3 pics, looks like 20inch in the rear, 19inch front!
Old 11-03-2010 | 03:36 PM
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Looks pretty great on the outside. Front looks funky, but I think when they get the camo off the headlights (hoping they don't 996 it), it will look really nice. Very muscular and 911'ish. Damn, now I might want one.

Upside seems like the 997s won't look too dated.

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Wow! First shot of the rear wing, looks HUGE! Must be great for high speed tracks!

Also, it looks like that Front and rear wheels have different sizes. The first 3 pics, looks like 20inch in the rear, 19inch front!
I hope that is a photo "effect" caused by a really long lens and maybe that's what is making the front look small - the next to last picture, with rear facing, makes the front wheels look larger than the rears.
Old 11-03-2010 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by alexb76
...it looks like that Front and rear wheels have different sizes. The first 3 pics, looks like 20inch in the rear, 19inch front!
I noticed the same thing.

Overall, I don't have any problems with it...the rear end seems to be the biggest difference, and it looks good to me so far...but I thought the longer wheelbase was going to reduce the front and rear overhangs...they actually look larger, especially the rear!
Old 11-03-2010 | 04:06 PM
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Come on now, that must be the Panamera Coupe, it looks ok and resembles a 911 but it is no 911.
Old 11-03-2010 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
...but I thought the longer wheelbase was going to reduce the front and rear overhangs...they actually look larger, especially the rear!
i thought the same thing. and altho some of the pix make them look shorter, they def look longer in the ones that have the best side angle. :\
Old 11-03-2010 | 07:19 PM
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Front and rear overhangs needed to accommodate 2 spare tires accessed from below (ala suv), one for the 19 inch wheel, the other for the 20 inchhttps://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif
Old 11-03-2010 | 07:27 PM
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i just puked in my mouth a little.

993-996 was 10 steps backward imo
996-997 was a leap forward in design

looks like my next p car purchase will be another 997 still
Old 11-03-2010 | 07:55 PM
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It looks okay, not horrible, but not great. IMHO, the 997 is a more balanced and cleaner design. The 991 rear does seem over done and looks tail heavy. Overall, not that different from the 997. The mirrors and rear lip edge will be what the average non-P car Joe might see.

For me the the jury is still out, need to see the full production version in all its glory.
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Well, I'm going to buck the trend and state that -- once we see the final version -- I think this is going to be a good-looking car. Let's face it, Porsche -- like all other manufacturers -- is completely hamstrung by the combination of environmental, safety, and pedestrian impact standards. The handwriting was on the wall for the 997 because of this. Though the design of the current car is great (hell, I just ordered a 997!), they were forced into coming up with something new for the next decade.

I'm guessing this will be like every other 911 redesign: initial scorn, followed by grudging acceptance, culminating in loving praise -- at which point it's time for the new version!

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I didn't see any pictures that showed the rear wing deployed. It didn't look that big to me, no bigger than the one on the 997 at least.

Am I missing something? Were there a different set of shots somewhere on that website?
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Originally Posted by csorrows
I didn't see any pictures that showed the rear wing deployed. It didn't look that big to me, no bigger than the one on the 997 at least.

Am I missing something? Were there a different set of shots somewhere on that website?
At first I wondered if the entire rear panel, from the spoiler lip to the base of the rear glass, is designed as an active airfoil. After close examination it's obvious the larger cut lines are for engine access, as on the lower left side (around the middle of the left taillight) you can see a second cut line that goes forwards -- with a horizontal "branch" that intersects the ventilation openings in the rear panel. That back panel is the spoiler.

I'm a little confused about the extra horizontal cutline that goes across the roof from B-pillar to B-pillar. Either they're going to a very large sunroof, ala Mercedes (perhaps photochromic?), or could that also be a hinged aero device? Probably the former and not the latter, as there's little room for a mechanism there...
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Originally Posted by csorrows
I didn't see any pictures that showed the rear wing deployed. It didn't look that big to me, no bigger than the one on the 997 at least.

Am I missing something? Were there a different set of shots somewhere on that website?
The wing hangs off to the body more than current, take a second look you will see, like 2inches largers on each side, total probably 4 inches wider.
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