New Paddle shifters vs Toggle
#16
Rennlist Member
I have switched to the paddles and like them alot vs the previous OEM toggles. But to each his own. IMHO the paddles were not a large cost or unreasonable upgrade for something I use daily.
#17
Race Director
I am sure you are the autox expert. I do not autox, except on fun PCNA events with their cars.
Re the WR comment... he works for PAG and not everything he says is gospel, AFAIC. Other professional drivers differ, and at the end of the day, I think for myself, and do not necessarily follow endorsements.
This is like 6speed vs PDK. I like that PAG offers options. I do indeed like the redundant toggles. It's great that conventional paddles exist for those who prefer that.
Re the WR comment... he works for PAG and not everything he says is gospel, AFAIC. Other professional drivers differ, and at the end of the day, I think for myself, and do not necessarily follow endorsements.
This is like 6speed vs PDK. I like that PAG offers options. I do indeed like the redundant toggles. It's great that conventional paddles exist for those who prefer that.
Originally, I also had no issues with the buttons on the street although now that I have the paddles I must say I prefer them for both street and track. To each his own.
Last edited by Mike in CA; 09-16-2010 at 11:45 PM. Reason: typo
#18
Race Director
Someone posted recently that the paddle wheel was now going for $1350 at Suncoast despite what it says on the web site. In any event, I paid $980 for the wheel and $180 for the labor. You should know that it actually took about 20 minutes start to finish to install the wheel and recalibrate the wheel position sensor; not $180 worth of labor.
#19
Race Director
I have had both and prefer the paddles.
#20
i am actually trying to complete an order from suncoast but they are also giving me a higher price. they mention that the wheel is available at the website price but i will have to wait 4 to 6 months...dont you think thats a bit riduculous? i know suncoast is a very reputable parts supplier i just hope they are not trying to take advantage of the demand for the wheel. im still trying to ask why should i pay more if they are telling me the price is such. im still hoping our guys in suncoast will be able to make me a happy customer.
#21
i am actually trying to complete an order from suncoast but they are also giving me a higher price. they mention that the wheel is available at the website price but i will have to wait 4 to 6 months...dont you think thats a bit riduculous? i know suncoast is a very reputable parts supplier i just hope they are not trying to take advantage of the demand for the wheel. im still trying to ask why should i pay more if they are telling me the price is such. im still hoping our guys in suncoast will be able to make me a happy customer.
#22
i am actually trying to complete an order from suncoast but they are also giving me a higher price. they mention that the wheel is available at the website price but i will have to wait 4 to 6 months...dont you think thats a bit riduculous? i know suncoast is a very reputable parts supplier i just hope they are not trying to take advantage of the demand for the wheel. im still trying to ask why should i pay more if they are telling me the price is such. im still hoping our guys in suncoast will be able to make me a happy customer.
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#23
Someone posted recently that the paddle wheel was now going for $1350 at Suncoast despite what it says on the web site. In any event, I paid $980 for the wheel and $180 for the labor. You should know that it actually took about 20 minutes start to finish to install the wheel and recalibrate the wheel position sensor; not $180 worth of labor.
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#24
Race Director
My understanding is that measuring steering wheel input relative to road wheel positioning is one of the factors that PSM takes into account when stabilizing the car. When you replace the steering wheel (or do an alignment) it must be "zeroed out" and precisely centered again for everything to be properly synched. A PIWIS tool is required for this. I can't speak to the discrepancy with the DIY instructions you mention, but that's the info I have.
Last edited by Mike in CA; 09-17-2010 at 07:43 PM.