Are the rumors true?
09-08-2010, 09:37 PM
#1
Are the rumors true?
My local dealer told me Porsche will not allow them to order any 2011 Turbos with a manual transmission. PDK only from here, they say. Anyone else heard this?
Note: I am not referring to the Turbo S.
Note: I am not referring to the Turbo S.
09-08-2010, 09:48 PM
#2
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I'd ask another dealer.
09-08-2010, 10:05 PM
#3
I don't think that is true. Unless you are ordering a Turbo S
They may be out of 2011 builds I know I tried to order a 2010 last Dec. Had to wait till the Turbo S came out and I am still waiting
They may be out of 2011 builds I know I tried to order a 2010 last Dec. Had to wait till the Turbo S came out and I am still waiting
09-08-2010, 10:11 PM
#4
Burning Brakes
Why are all the Turbos AWD? Is it a safety issue? When did they start making them AWD? Weren't the 930's RWD? thanks
09-08-2010, 10:48 PM
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09-09-2010, 12:29 AM
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09-09-2010, 12:35 AM
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09-09-2010, 10:51 AM
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Burning Brakes
Very interesting. Thanks.
10-31-2010, 09:04 PM
#12
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The reason Porsche moved to AWD for their turbocharged cars was in response to a number of IDIOTS who either didn't know how to drive a high powered rear engined car or they loaned them out to someone who didn't know how to drive a high powered rear engined car. There were many accidents and even lawsuits wherein victims attempted to claim that the Porsche Turbo was an inherently unsafe car (remember the Chevy Corvair?) When Porsche got tired of dealing with this they made a conscious marketing (not engineering) decision to make all their regular Porsche Turbos AWD cars, to help reduce their proclivity for swapping ends on inexperienced drivers. (What was happening was that Porsche Turbos were becoming popular as something other than an enthusiast's car). As such, every person who thought they were competent in a Porsche Turbo cockpit was buying one only to discover they had limitations. With the introduction of the 993 TWIN Turbos they all came with a viscous clutch that allowed the front end to pull the car through curves when needed. By the 997 Turbo Porsche had finally abandoned the viscous clutch design that they used for the 993 and 996 turbos and adopted a much more sophisticated and complex electronically governed AWD system that was last seen on the 964 (Carrera 4) cars as well as on the Porsche 959.
Of course, some people can actually drive a 2WD Porsche with a lot of power and so the Porsche GT2 is for them. Because they are considerably more expensive and thus less popular, it appears that Porsche has solved that little problem.
And yes, of course, you can get a Porsche Turbo with a 6-speed!
Of course, some people can actually drive a 2WD Porsche with a lot of power and so the Porsche GT2 is for them. Because they are considerably more expensive and thus less popular, it appears that Porsche has solved that little problem.
And yes, of course, you can get a Porsche Turbo with a 6-speed!
10-31-2010, 10:28 PM
#13
Dealer: "Uh, hello, is this Mr. Destruct?
MSD: "Why, yes -- yes it is!"
Dealer: "This is your friendly Porsche dealer; have you thought any more about your order for that 911 Turbo?"
MSD: "I'm so glad you asked; as a matter of fact I ordered one yesterday!"
MSD: "Why, yes -- yes it is!"
Dealer: "This is your friendly Porsche dealer; have you thought any more about your order for that 911 Turbo?"
MSD: "I'm so glad you asked; as a matter of fact I ordered one yesterday!"
10-31-2010, 10:53 PM
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10-31-2010, 10:57 PM
#15
The reason Porsche moved to AWD for their turbocharged cars was in response to a number of IDIOTS who either didn't know how to drive a high powered rear engined car or they loaned them out to someone who didn't know how to drive a high powered rear engined car. There were many accidents and even lawsuits wherein victims attempted to claim that the Porsche Turbo was an inherently unsafe car (remember the Chevy Corvair?) When Porsche got tired of dealing with this they made a conscious marketing (not engineering) decision to make all their regular Porsche Turbos AWD cars, to help reduce their proclivity for swapping ends on inexperienced drivers. (What was happening was that Porsche Turbos were becoming popular as something other than an enthusiast's car). As such, every person who thought they were competent in a Porsche Turbo cockpit was buying one only to discover they had limitations. With the introduction of the 993 TWIN Turbos they all came with a viscous clutch that allowed the front end to pull the car through curves when needed. By the 997 Turbo Porsche had finally abandoned the viscous clutch design that they used for the 993 and 996 turbos and adopted a much more sophisticated and complex electronically governed AWD system that was last seen on the 964 (Carrera 4) cars as well as on the Porsche 959.
Of course, some people can actually drive a 2WD Porsche with a lot of power and so the Porsche GT2 is for them. Because they are considerably more expensive and thus less popular, it appears that Porsche has solved that little problem.
And yes, of course, you can get a Porsche Turbo with a 6-speed!
Of course, some people can actually drive a 2WD Porsche with a lot of power and so the Porsche GT2 is for them. Because they are considerably more expensive and thus less popular, it appears that Porsche has solved that little problem.
And yes, of course, you can get a Porsche Turbo with a 6-speed!
I've got to say that when I put the power down in corners, there's no doubt that the primitive AWD in my '06 helps pull the car around and I can feel the rear slightly swing; the bias is obviously toward the rear in my car as they state no torque goes beyond 40% to the front.