Edgy01

Let me put COST in perspective. In Europe when you buy a litre of Mobil 1 it will set you back between $25-30. That's socialism at its finest. Now, what was that about $7/quart?

Fahrer

Mobil 1 is expensive in Europe because of socialism? I believe it is expensive because you are actually paying for the total cost of making distributing and re-cycling the oil. They also actually pay for the use of and maintenence / repairs of roads over there through motor fuel taxes.

People here actually think driving on roads is free and that it doesn't cost any money to re-cycle oil. It is not socialism. It is economic and environmental responsibility.

ADias

And we don't ?!? Ah wait... here in CA our fuel taxes are paid to CalTrans, but the agency simply wastes it in administrative costs and forgets about repairing roads.

Fahrer

That sounds like socialism to me. As does the idea that people who do not own cars or actually use roads must pay for them in the US. Let's see... I live in NJ and much of my tax bill goes to other states... what would one call that?

Rambler358

It's time for me to top off my '07, I guess mine is a bit thrifty when it comes to oil usage. After I get/find the Mobil 0-40 somewhere, how much oil equates to each bar of the oil level indicator from the dash? Just want to make sure I don't overfill.

ADias

Each segment is 0.43 qts (+-0.215qt reading error). I would wait until it gets to the lower bar and add 0.5 qt and check. Then if it needs more add another 1/4qt and check and so on. Never overfill!

zanwar

You guys crack me up. You can spin an innocent question about engine oil into anti-socialist commentary.

mdrums

ARRRRGH...so correct....I come here to get away.

Rambler358

Thanks! Will low oil (maybe 2 bars from bottom) affect manual shifting at all? That's where mine is right now, and it seems the shifter isn't quite as smooth.

REBor8

Anything the government gets involved with, at any level and for whatever reason, is a total waste of money and resources. The monster has gotten too large.

ADias

The transmission oil is different, totally separate, nothing to do with motor oil.

ADias

I do not want to continue this, but if there is something that it's the government's responsibility it is roads. And we motorists pay for it in fuel taxes. I agree with you though that the government mangles it, big time, even if they should do it right. We the people take it on the chin and let it go. My theory is that most people drive SUVs/trucks and they do not care for the condition of the roads.

zanwar

People are buying SUVs *because* of the condition of the roads. It's a circular problem.

Fahrer

Yes, SUVs are for cheap gas and bad roads. I would prefer more expensive gas and good roads.....911s are made for that. I lived in Germany for 3.5 years and the latter works vey well.

Canyon56

A lot of manufacturers (MB, too) are now going to the ESP 5-40W because of reduced the phosphorus in that formula: "The ILSAC level for phosphorus has been reduced to protect the catalytic converter and other emission protection equipment."

Phosphorus is M1's protective additive. As I mentioned in my earlier post above (https://rennlist.com/forums/7676441-post8.html Mobil says this:

"The engine manufacturers are confident that this level of phosphorus will protect both new and older engines. However, there are Mobil 1 products which have a higher level of phosphorus and can be used in engines in racing or high performance applications."

Anyway the brain dead teabaggers have turned this thread into a "high cost of oil thanks to socialism" banter, and so it goes......