View Poll Results: PDK shift button implementation, is it NON-INTUITIVE?
Nope, it makes sense to me
43
74.14%
Yes, what was Porsche thinking?
14
24.14%
Yes, but i have many modern Italian supercars, so of course it is crazy.
1
1.72%
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PDK, do you REALLY find the buttons non-intuitive / a hassle to use?
05-09-2016, 12:25 AM
#46
Racer
I found myself accidentally hitting my buttons during autocross. Then I upgraded to the paddle wheel and no longer have accidental shifts. So I prefer the paddles. I think it's a personal preference and everyone's different.
05-09-2016, 02:00 AM
#47
Intermediate
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So far, I've found that I like Porsche's button or toggle systems on the steering wheels, particularly the ones for the PDK generation. Moving from a car with L&R "pull" paddles takes a bit of changing the muscle memory, but once there I find the system very nice to use. Although I haven't tracked the car, I haven't had any accidental shifts during spirited driving.
The console lever, on the other hand, is a bigger struggle. Of all the cars I've had with "Tip-style" shifters, I've found the push down/pull up (as in BMWs) to be easier to get used to, so I would say for me it's more intuitive. I guess with Porsche one of the problems to go this route would be that they could end up with the toggles and the lever shifting in opposite directions... but I'd be ok with that!
Anyone find an aftermarket solution for the lever shift pattern?
The console lever, on the other hand, is a bigger struggle. Of all the cars I've had with "Tip-style" shifters, I've found the push down/pull up (as in BMWs) to be easier to get used to, so I would say for me it's more intuitive. I guess with Porsche one of the problems to go this route would be that they could end up with the toggles and the lever shifting in opposite directions... but I'd be ok with that!
Anyone find an aftermarket solution for the lever shift pattern?
If Porsche were to fix it, they would have Pull as upshift on the console and the paddles and Push as downshift. The RX8 has this feature which maintains the ability to shift up or down with one hand on the wheel.
It looks a little weird but you are downshifting with a press of your thumb and upshifting with the pull of your middle, ring, pinky finger.
05-09-2016, 12:48 PM
#48
Rennlist Member
Like many have already stated, I've accidentally hit the up shift button while on the track - they're not necessarily unintuitive, the push/pull direction makes sense.....I just think the design is bad (locating them on the wheel where your palm can accidentally hit them) . At the end of the day the cynic in me thinks that wheel exists only to extract another $600 from buyers when they build a car and have to upgrade to the paddle wheel.
Soze hooked me up with a link to an alcantara paddle wheel which arrives tomorrow - can't wait to fit it !
Soze hooked me up with a link to an alcantara paddle wheel which arrives tomorrow - can't wait to fit it !
05-09-2016, 12:56 PM
#49
Three Wheelin'
They are so horrible I had the new steering wheel on order before I even picked up the car from the dealer after purchase.
I suppose if you just leave the car in drive it's not a problem.
I suppose if you just leave the car in drive it's not a problem.
05-09-2016, 01:37 PM
#50
Rennlist Member
BMW also got the console shifter correct as well: Pull towards you to upshift, push away from you to downshift. Porsche screwed this up IMHO and they finally agree: the shift pattern for the 991.2 was reversed so that it matches BMW's.
I wish I could change this on my car. Even after a year and a half of ownership I find it non-intuitive and I have to think about which direction to move the shifter. It's not instinctive like it was with the BMW.
05-09-2016, 02:28 PM
#51
Nordschleife Master
Every car interface is different. I am afraid those who are challenged to quickly adapt when jumping from one interface to the other may have other more concerning issues.
05-09-2016, 02:34 PM
#52
Three Wheelin'
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