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well, I would not buy pdk without SC even for a good price as it will be a pain to resell it later if opportunity for an upgrade arises.
it is generally not a wise to idea to buy something other people do pass on. even if it looks nice from all other angles. but compared to 997.1 with tip 997.2 car with PDK is ages ahead - bigger brakes, bigger engine, more power and PDK can still shift perfectly in manual mode without SC. but to sell it will be tough.
it is generally not a wise to idea to buy something other people do pass on. even if it looks nice from all other angles. but compared to 997.1 with tip 997.2 car with PDK is ages ahead - bigger brakes, bigger engine, more power and PDK can still shift perfectly in manual mode without SC. but to sell it will be tough.
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I did just that. I bought a 2009 C2S pdk Racing Green launch car (with sprts chrono) that others passed on for 1 1/2 yrs. But this was due to the color, not the options. Green is a non-traditional porsche color.
(I got lucky, in that I think PRG color is dynamite, and is the color I would have ordered anyway!)
(I got lucky, in that I think PRG color is dynamite, and is the color I would have ordered anyway!)
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I'm going to keep this car for 4-5 years so not having sport chrono is no problem for me. I'm no racer I just want to put myself in my dream car - I've already been waiting 3 years and I have to buy this year to take advantage of a tax position.
I'm very conservative in my finances and I have plenty of equity so I'm not worried about the debt picture. I'm going to get money back from FSA at the end of the year and a decent tax refund (I make a point of overpaying) so I could reduce my payment by $200 a month in January and same again the following January.
Now my only concern is should I be worried about a car that has been on the lot for 2 years? The CPO seems to take the edge off that for me...
I'm very conservative in my finances and I have plenty of equity so I'm not worried about the debt picture. I'm going to get money back from FSA at the end of the year and a decent tax refund (I make a point of overpaying) so I could reduce my payment by $200 a month in January and same again the following January.
Now my only concern is should I be worried about a car that has been on the lot for 2 years? The CPO seems to take the edge off that for me...
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997.1 tip is not that great I agree, but in a recent Nurburgring trip, compared manual 997.1 to 997.2 and the difference is minimal (report to follow).
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I'm going to keep this car for 4-5 years so not having sport chrono is no problem for me. I'm no racer I just want to put myself in my dream car - I've already been waiting 3 years and I have to buy this year to take advantage of a tax position.
I'm very conservative in my finances and I have plenty of equity so I'm not worried about the debt picture. I'm going to get money back from FSA at the end of the year and a decent tax refund (I make a point of overpaying) so I could reduce my payment by $200 a month in January and same again the following January.
Now my only concern is should I be worried about a car that has been on the lot for 2 years? The CPO seems to take the edge off that for me...
I'm very conservative in my finances and I have plenty of equity so I'm not worried about the debt picture. I'm going to get money back from FSA at the end of the year and a decent tax refund (I make a point of overpaying) so I could reduce my payment by $200 a month in January and same again the following January.
Now my only concern is should I be worried about a car that has been on the lot for 2 years? The CPO seems to take the edge off that for me...
1. DO NOT stretch your finances for a car, that is a diminishing asset! Note these cars ARE expensive to maintian, rear tires alone are $1000+ and they go every 6K miles.
2. If you don't race, don't care about some minor improvements in PASM, PDK. and 30HP, 997.1 is 80-90% of 997.2
3. Tip in 997.1 drags power away... 997.1 manual is a much better option.
So, I suggest you look elsewhere for a manual 997.1 with similar final payment that is comfortable for you.
However, if you're NOT a manual guy and was planning to get a Tip either way, 997.1 Tip is just THE MOST enjoyable Automatic car you can possibly get... do not hesitate.
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Listen: You do what floats your boat. But this is the general consensus on PDK: SC is a must have option. It's probably the number one option to have on a 997.2 with PDK. It adds a sports/sports plus button which remaps the engine to give such an aggressive response and let's you have that much more fun shifting gears in the manual mode. It holds lower gears as long as possible only changing up when the revs hit 7200 rpm. I am sorry, but there is no way I would want a PDK equipped car without a SC. Just play with one and then you will know what I am talking about. But again, it's your money, you do what suits you.
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Ha! That $800 will never come back to your wallet.. It will be absorbed into other child rearing costs.
That said, if $1K/mo is tight now, it will ONLY get tighter as your kids get older.
Unless you tell someone what year it is, no one will notice a 2007 or a 2009. Get the one you can afford. Has the recent market crash/credit crunch taught you nothing?
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What prices are you getting on the black on and white one? If we know the numbers, we can help to make sure you are getting a decent (fair) deal.
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Black/Black 2007 C2
- Bose
- Tip
- Electric seats
- Sport Chrono
- 22k miles
- 3 years warranty (CPO)
- My payment: $670 (comfortable)
vs
White/Grey 2009 C2 (launch car)
- Bose
- PDK
- Electric driver seat only
- 200 miles
- 4 years warranty (CPO)
- My payment: $1,070 (stretch)
I'm buying an auto and that's what I want. Normally, the extra $400 a month would not be a problem but for this year only both my kids will be in Montessori (youngest starts in September) which is about $800 each a month. Next year my oldest will start public school so I get that cash back. So I'll be tight for about a year.
This is my first Pcar and I know the smile on my face with the 07 will be 90% of the smile I have with the 09, at least for the first year.
Your thoughts?
- Bose
- Tip
- Electric seats
- Sport Chrono
- 22k miles
- 3 years warranty (CPO)
- My payment: $670 (comfortable)
vs
White/Grey 2009 C2 (launch car)
- Bose
- PDK
- Electric driver seat only
- 200 miles
- 4 years warranty (CPO)
- My payment: $1,070 (stretch)
I'm buying an auto and that's what I want. Normally, the extra $400 a month would not be a problem but for this year only both my kids will be in Montessori (youngest starts in September) which is about $800 each a month. Next year my oldest will start public school so I get that cash back. So I'll be tight for about a year.
This is my first Pcar and I know the smile on my face with the 07 will be 90% of the smile I have with the 09, at least for the first year.
Your thoughts?
Can you make 3 payments on car without busting budget and falling behind on any notes you owe. If your answer is yes and you have a secure job go for it you will be OK.
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I must agree that a 997.1 tip is going to be difficult to sell on.
When buying my 2005 997.1 which had every available option ticked I could not understand why the original buyer specified a manual over tip but as I researched I soon found out why.
When buying my 2005 997.1 which had every available option ticked I could not understand why the original buyer specified a manual over tip but as I researched I soon found out why.
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Do you not know how to drive a manual? Why not get a 07 manual and save even more money? If the latter is a stretch, don't do it. You'll have to tach on maintenance & insurance costs on top of that. Like another poster mentioned, there are tiny differences between the 07 and 09 MY. Keep that $400 cause you never know when another one of your cars is going to die and you need to get something else.
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Well the black/black 07 CPO Tip sold (advertised for $54k), 1 week after it was advertised... So it wasn't all that unpopular.
I'm not averse to driving a manual - I did nothing but for the first 10 years but I they were always right hand drive and it felt correct to have the stick in the left hand and the steering wheel in the right. The other way around just doesn't feel right to me although I'm sure I can get used to it, I'm not sure if I want to get used to it.
Now I'm looking at this car as a daily driver, to and from work mostly and out to clients, so I don't want to add to work stress when I'm driving which a manual and Houston traffic is liable to do. I'm not going to track the car, just enjoy having a car I lust after.
The search continues!
I'm not averse to driving a manual - I did nothing but for the first 10 years but I they were always right hand drive and it felt correct to have the stick in the left hand and the steering wheel in the right. The other way around just doesn't feel right to me although I'm sure I can get used to it, I'm not sure if I want to get used to it.
Now I'm looking at this car as a daily driver, to and from work mostly and out to clients, so I don't want to add to work stress when I'm driving which a manual and Houston traffic is liable to do. I'm not going to track the car, just enjoy having a car I lust after.
The search continues!