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Old 03-18-2010, 10:19 AM
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Default Porsche takes top spot for long term reliability

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100318/..._dependability
Old 03-18-2010, 10:48 AM
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It was based on the 2007 model year in late 2009. Hopefully my 2008 keeper will also be reliable!
Old 03-18-2010, 12:30 PM
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Yes, it's the third year of ownership, so not exactly "long term."

The real question: how they fare after the 4/50 warranty expires.

I conduct a car reliability survey that updates quarterly and tracks cars continuously as they age. Not covering the 911 yet because need more owners signed up. So I'm grateful that Rennlist has provided permission to post about the survey.

Details here:

Car reliability research
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With only 13K mi on my 2007 car, it ought to be reliable...
Old 03-18-2010, 01:31 PM
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I wonder if member pmgoodwin, with the cracked block on his '05, agrees
with Porsche being the most reliable vehicle on the planet.
Rare engine problems do pop up from time to time with any vehicle.

8,500 miles on mine, and I've never had a problem.
Old 03-18-2010, 02:01 PM
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This should come as no surprise. Since most Porsche owners of today RARELY drive the cars of course they will appear to be highly reliable! Porsche--they love you guys who collect cars, for the sake of collecting them.
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It's a little more complicated than this.

I live and breathe reliability data. When a brand's score changes a lot, it's usually because a model was redesigned or discontinued.

And, guess what: there was no 2007 Cayenne. Which happens to be the Porsche most likely to be used as a daily driver. It went from 2006 to 2008.

On the other hands, this means that the sports cars rank well.

As far as I can tell, only TrueDelta has noticed this:

Jaguar, Porsche, and the 2010 VDS
Old 03-18-2010, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Edgy01
This should come as no surprise. Since most Porsche owners of today RARELY drive the cars of course they will appear to be highly reliable! Porsche--they love you guys who collect cars, for the sake of collecting them.

+1
These surveys really need to have a minimum miles driven threshold for as an inclusion criterion into the survey.
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What I do with TrueDelta's survey is post the average odometer reading, and highlight the low ones in green. The average Boxster seems to be driven 5k/year:

Porsche Boxster / Cayman reliability comparisons
Old 03-18-2010, 06:24 PM
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How can these articles even be released... Seems like no one even thinks about the results twice before posting.
Old 03-18-2010, 07:45 PM
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33k on my dd '05 with no issues whatsoever. Unless you count the clock slowing a few seconds each week. Love the car. I do believe we tend to take care of our cars and are a bit more involved. As an example, I know who to apply the breaks.

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Old 03-18-2010, 09:28 PM
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yes in my opinion porsche makes the most reliable german car out there..they are usialy in the top5-7 every year and that deserves some credit..
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Originally Posted by Jakeman
With only 13K mi on my 2007 car, it ought to be reliable...
<10K on mine although it is my DD. What can I say, I live on a small island in the middle of the Pacific LOL.
Old 03-19-2010, 12:22 AM
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I have owned 3 Porsches (95 993 C4, 2000 Boxster S and a 2003 996 C4S) and they have been very reliable. Not perfect, but I have never had a perfect car, yet. When one considers the incredible performance, and the fact that I took each car to the track many times, the reliability and durability is awesome. They are not cheap to maintain but they are worth maintaining unlike so many mass market cars that become disposable items. My new Panamera 4S is on order, it has been 5 years since my last Porsche and I am looking forward to a return to the fold. By the way, I have also owned 4 BMW's and, with one exception, have found them to be at least as reliable as the Porsches. Perhaps I am just lucky....
Old 03-19-2010, 12:59 AM
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odd that there seem to be so many complaints about the survey - maybe we're just an **** bunch.

it's very interesting that there was no 2007 cayenne - very tricky indeed

as for me, i'll take the #1 ranking and not complain about it. every manufacturer here is playing the same game. you can't solely judge by miles, either. some vehicles are in stop and go traffic, some tow things, some are very high performance, some are 30 year old technology that will be very reliable no matter what you do to it because it's not pushing the envelope on new technology or efficiency....


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