Handoogies

Do your research and talk to experienced track drivers and take it easy from the beginning. My experience with porsche (especially the g-force section) is that it's taught by a bunch of bored washed-up has beens whom may drive like the wind, but can't explain theories well for ****. Their explanation on how to drift around a corner (verbatim) "you gets to ze turn, you feel ze veels begin to slip, you give it more throttle" and that was it. Lucky no one killed themselves that day. Maybe, and I hope, it's a lot better in the States. But in Shanghai it was a waste of money (almost 3k per session, excluding car rental)

Bob Rouleau

The US Porsche Driving School is not like your description above. On the other hand they don't teach drifting that I know of, since it is not the fast way around te corner.

Handoogies

Hi Bob, G force was the third and final leg of the Shanghai porsche driving school "experience", where they try to teach you how a car behaves when it is at or beyond its limits. My feeling is that although China accounts for a lot of their sales, they think of this market as being filled with amateurs whom like the status of having a porsche rather than learning how to drive one well. So I guess you guys get the good instructors, we get the Ricky Bobbys'.

brendo

i think you'll find strong sentiment here that PSDS is a very valuable activity. you'll need to decide on the cost/value equation indivudually.

from my experience, PCA instruction is excellent, but it's not a dedicated enviroment like you get at PSDS - so it's apples to oranges to me, and i like both the apples and oranges.

unless you're planning to go to china for instruction, i think you can dismiss the other comments on porsche instruction posted here so far.

rpalomo

its a sports car- its was made anticipating that it was gonna be driven hard...i dont think youll have any issues- if anything i reccomend you driver it with a little more soul more often enjoy

rodsky

I almost try and get my car to redline on every drive . Thats what these cars are made for. Obviously get the oil temp up to operating temp before doing so. Plus the PDK shove in the back is very nice.

Your car should be A-OK.

GT3 Racer

All of you who think you can not get overevs in a PDK are wrong!! I have the Durametric cable and software. Went to clear a CEL. What do you know. Type one overevs recorded at 384 hour which was just a few weeks ago, don't ask me how, that I can not answer.Just a FYI.

simsgw

That isn't an over-rev. Range one is the last few hundred rpm before the redline. I've forgotten the exact number where it begins. 7200 rpm I think, but maybe 7300. That range merely records the longest interval you stayed near the redline.

Gary

911SLOW

No it doesn't. it's redline +1

https://rennlist.com/forums/8559272-post10.html

simsgw

That sounds authoritative, John. Copy of a service bulletin or guideline? Certainly, I have no basis to argue it. However, in previous discussions it was said:

Offhand, I can't find the thread where that assertion was published. I just save it for my own reference. Maybe you remember?

Gary

911SLOW

It comes directly from the Technical Information database.



The values in your post are wrong, for the 997.1 check this:

https://rennlist.com/forums/8327284-post11.html

simsgw

It looks like whoever posted those values got them from that source. Only the first range is different, starting 100 rpm lower. It appears that somebody saw the values for a dot one engine and presumed the DME was the same for the dot two. It isn't the same engine at all of course.

By inference then, the redline for a dot one engine is only 7200 rpm?

Gary

P.S. I'm amending my local copy of the ranges to conform to that material you quoted first.

gpjli2

In 2006 my PDE instructor at Barber Raceway in Alabama was Harley Haywood! Had dinner with him (and others) that night. A great piece of the Porsche legend there. Saw no bored washups. The hot laps the next day put the concept of professional racing driver in a whole new perspective for me. It's a must do.

Edgy01

Redline for the 997.1 cars is 7300 rpm.

mdrums

No wash ups teaching for Porsche just current racers you see on tv that happen to teach really well.