Which Radar Detector to Buy?
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You seem to be confused.
OK lets begin at the beginning.
First of all the K40 detector is hidden behind the bumper and is not visible. What you are seeing externally is the laser diffuser.
I agree that you don't see the V1 laser diffuser because...................
...............it doesn't exist.
SO congratulations. The V1 laser diffuser is not visible but only because it doesn't even have that capability. Now that's a feat of engineering you can be proud of.
As far as the licence plate holder is concerned the dealer installed it. Since I recently got a ticket in downtown Chicago for not having a front plate I have now installed the plate as well. Not worth the hassle of doing otherwise.
Now you can go back to promulgating the urban legends about the V1.
OK lets begin at the beginning.
First of all the K40 detector is hidden behind the bumper and is not visible. What you are seeing externally is the laser diffuser.
I agree that you don't see the V1 laser diffuser because...................
...............it doesn't exist.
SO congratulations. The V1 laser diffuser is not visible but only because it doesn't even have that capability. Now that's a feat of engineering you can be proud of.
As far as the licence plate holder is concerned the dealer installed it. Since I recently got a ticket in downtown Chicago for not having a front plate I have now installed the plate as well. Not worth the hassle of doing otherwise.
Now you can go back to promulgating the urban legends about the V1.
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You seem to be confused.
OK lets begin at the beginning.
First of all the K40 detector is hidden behind the bumper and is not visible. What you are seeing externally is the laser diffuser.
I agree that you don't see the V1 laser diffuser because...................
...............it doesn't exist.
SO congratulations. The V1 laser diffuser is not visible but only because it doesn't even have that capability. Now that's a feat of engineering you can be proud about.
As far as the licence plate holder is concerned the dealer installed it. Since I recently got a ticket in downtown Chicago for not having a front plate I have now installed the plate as well. Not worth the hassle of doing otherwise.
Now you can go back to promulgating the urban legends about the V1.
OK lets begin at the beginning.
First of all the K40 detector is hidden behind the bumper and is not visible. What you are seeing externally is the laser diffuser.
I agree that you don't see the V1 laser diffuser because...................
...............it doesn't exist.
SO congratulations. The V1 laser diffuser is not visible but only because it doesn't even have that capability. Now that's a feat of engineering you can be proud about.
As far as the licence plate holder is concerned the dealer installed it. Since I recently got a ticket in downtown Chicago for not having a front plate I have now installed the plate as well. Not worth the hassle of doing otherwise.
Now you can go back to promulgating the urban legends about the V1.
My posts were a reaction to your completely unsubstantiated claims about which detector best avoided tickets, and an odd theory about how people bought into a cult of personality when they chose a V1. Talk about promulgating urban legends.
FWIW, laser diffusers (jammers) like yours are illegal per local law in my state, California, as well as Nebraska, Utah, Virginia, Colorado, Minnesota, Oklahoma and D.C. I'm willing to risk a fix-it ticket to go without a front license plate. I won't risk a big fine and possible confiscation of my $1500 radar detector/diffuser just to avoid having a detector on my windshield.
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Not confused at all. I'll try to be clear. Location of detector, existence of diffuser or not, presence of license plate or not, choosing a K40 over a V1 and vice versa; irrelevant to why I responded to your post.
My posts were a reaction to your completely unsubstantiated claims about which detector best avoided tickets, and an odd theory about how people bought into a cult of personality when they chose a V1. Talk about promulgating urban legends.
FWIW, radar diffusers (jammers) like yours are illegal per local law in my state, California, as well as Nebraska, Utah, Virginia, Colorado, Minnesota, Oklahoma and D.C. Radarbusters.com states that per the FCC they are illegal to own or operate in all 50 states. I'm willing to risk a fix-it ticket to go without a front license plate. I won't risk a big fine and possible confiscation of my $1500 radar detector/diffuser just to avoid having a detector on my windshield.
My posts were a reaction to your completely unsubstantiated claims about which detector best avoided tickets, and an odd theory about how people bought into a cult of personality when they chose a V1. Talk about promulgating urban legends.
FWIW, radar diffusers (jammers) like yours are illegal per local law in my state, California, as well as Nebraska, Utah, Virginia, Colorado, Minnesota, Oklahoma and D.C. Radarbusters.com states that per the FCC they are illegal to own or operate in all 50 states. I'm willing to risk a fix-it ticket to go without a front license plate. I won't risk a big fine and possible confiscation of my $1500 radar detector/diffuser just to avoid having a detector on my windshield.
Just trying to keep the thread from running another 15 pages.
Personally, I prefer a V1 and a Laser Interceptor laser jammer, although I also have an Escort Passport 9500ci as well. Nothing like belts and suspenders.
Oh, yeah, I have a K40 laser diffuser on my wife's X5 (just trying to be equal opportunity).
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I believe its all in your attitude when you get pulled over. These guys have a job to do and I make sure I respect their professionalism. I know that if I was pulling some one over the last thing I would want is a negative attitude.
The K40 is a good radar; however, having said that, I have been hit with instant on and it doesn't give you any protection. Rule of thumb is to slow down when approaching an overpass or a curve, they usually sit at the bottom of the hill and hit you as you approach them.
The K40 is a good radar; however, having said that, I have been hit with instant on and it doesn't give you any protection. Rule of thumb is to slow down when approaching an overpass or a curve, they usually sit at the bottom of the hill and hit you as you approach them.
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I believe its all in your attitude when you get pulled over. These guys have a job to do and I make sure I respect their professionalism. I know that if I was pulling some one over the last thing I would want is a negative attitude.
The K40 is a good radar; however, having said that, I have been hit with instant on and it doesn't give you any protection. Rule of thumb is to slow down when approaching an overpass or a curve, they usually sit at the bottom of the hill and hit you as you approach them.
The K40 is a good radar; however, having said that, I have been hit with instant on and it doesn't give you any protection. Rule of thumb is to slow down when approaching an overpass or a curve, they usually sit at the bottom of the hill and hit you as you approach them.
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I love the capablilities that the Escort 9500 CI affords you especially with the GPS system that it incorporates into the overall detection. It has great Ka-band detection, especially over hills and gives me a "safe" feeling when driving. Laser protection is superb, and future upgrades are available online.
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I'm sorry but we're talking about 2 different things.
The K40 can be had with detectors with or without laser jammers.
The V1 does not have laser jamming capability.
So if all you are comparing is radar/laser detectors then you are not sacrificing any front bumper real estate by going with the K40. Externaly it would be invisible. The only thing you are sacrificing is an unsightly 1950s style appliance on your windshield.
If you want the added protection of the diffuser(laser, not radar, jammer) then at least it is an option with the K40 which the V1 does not even offer.
Although we may disagree on value and aesthetics are we now at least on the same page when it comes to the facts of the comparison?
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I too had a K-40 installed on my C2S and loved the fact I only have two LED's and audio both voice which band and a counter "ticking or alerts" as well.
Both installed front/rear by license plates which most police use to "shoot laser" at since it's very refelctive enough to bounce back with an accurate reading to the gun. This is where most laser jammers are to be installed, close to the plate.
Another area is headlights due to the reflective nature of the unit is another area they use for laser guns.
Anyway, I didn't want an external unit (same reason I did a Sirius install via PCM) as I hate the look of external devices in this car.
Radar jammers are illegal in all states as you're now broadcasting radio waves on a band only for law enforcement, so never use a radar jammer. We all know that right?
Laser jammers are light emitting so most states do not have laws, but it's changing fast and some have past laws forbidding laser jammers. Check your state laws before you buy one.
So far, never got a ticket with the K-40 system. Only wish they have update capability or other firmware updates. If they start offering this feature, maybe more would look into these.
Nice to have just LED's and a Bluetooth remote which fits in the ash tray area as opposed to windshield units or other remote head units which then have to be mounted in a location that will not detract from the interior but also give you visual alerts without taking your eyes off the road.
There are so many opinions on radar/laser detectors/jammers and it's a matter of review and what you believe will work best for the area you normally drive.
Install the one that will best match the areas law enforcement where you drive is the best advise.
Regards,
Deanski
Both installed front/rear by license plates which most police use to "shoot laser" at since it's very refelctive enough to bounce back with an accurate reading to the gun. This is where most laser jammers are to be installed, close to the plate.
Another area is headlights due to the reflective nature of the unit is another area they use for laser guns.
Anyway, I didn't want an external unit (same reason I did a Sirius install via PCM) as I hate the look of external devices in this car.
Radar jammers are illegal in all states as you're now broadcasting radio waves on a band only for law enforcement, so never use a radar jammer. We all know that right?
Laser jammers are light emitting so most states do not have laws, but it's changing fast and some have past laws forbidding laser jammers. Check your state laws before you buy one.
So far, never got a ticket with the K-40 system. Only wish they have update capability or other firmware updates. If they start offering this feature, maybe more would look into these.
Nice to have just LED's and a Bluetooth remote which fits in the ash tray area as opposed to windshield units or other remote head units which then have to be mounted in a location that will not detract from the interior but also give you visual alerts without taking your eyes off the road.
There are so many opinions on radar/laser detectors/jammers and it's a matter of review and what you believe will work best for the area you normally drive.
Install the one that will best match the areas law enforcement where you drive is the best advise.
Regards,
Deanski
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Yes I am a bitter person who hates both democrats and republicans and sees no real way out from all this mess.
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That said: if I get too many speeding tickets (all undeserved of course) I'll get rid of these fast cars and get a clunker and have coffee, watch TV, and enjoy the view of all my motoring friends in my rear view mirror while I set the cruise at 55.
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Next energy source? Isn't gas good enough for your car? Isn't there enough oil around the world? When I last checked the Russian Arctic exploration (a limited one) is larger than the Saudi fields and enough to fuel the planet alone for at least 40 years. After that, there's plenty more. Only us shoot ourselves in the foot, stop drilling, stop refining and pay the piper.
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Free Country: Free from British Rule - which seemed very important, in fact paramount, at the time. And I think that is a good thing to understand. Most people seem to have no idea and toss about the notion of "free country" to mean or propagandize all sorts of things that it doesn't.
People have been trying to get out of "this mess" since...well...since people - and there's always another mess - helps keep the news reporters employed.
Don't be too bitter - life's too short and you'll be outta this mess probably sooner than you'd like.