Downshifting from 3rd Gear to 2nd Gear (6 speed transmissions)
09-20-2009, 12:13 PM
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Just drive it, you won't break the tranny - don't sweat it.
BMW tranny's are no better in my experience, and their automatics shift like crap!
BMW tranny's are no better in my experience, and their automatics shift like crap!
09-21-2009, 01:53 PM
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My last car had 260 HP, and 221lbs feet of torque aroudn 3000 rpms.
This 911 is 345, and about 280 lbs at 3000...
Would that cause the shift from 2nd to be more balky. This much torque might do it? I do not recall on the m3 if it felt like a huge load transfer...
09-21-2009, 02:12 PM
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See, the whole thing is the 911 is an amazing car, BUT, to me... it's not as sporting as the BMW. Here's why, the shifting, is notchy at best. The clutch is hard to modulate. It's a race car. Do I think I might have purchased the wrong car? Some days, that answer is yes. Some days its no. Each shift is so hard to smooth out, that the car is hard to handle as a daily driver.
Do you have an 'S' or base Carrera? I did notice in doing test drives that the 'S' was louder, a bit stiffer, and the clutch was certainly heavier. I actually chose a base Carrera over an 'S' since I would be sharing DD with the BMW.
It does sound to like there is a problem with the car. Shifting should not be difficult and there should not be any noise. Does this happen under normal driving or just when you are downshifting at high RPMs?
09-21-2009, 02:21 PM
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See, the whole thing is the 911 is an amazing car, BUT, to me... it's not as sporting as the BMW. Here's why, the shifting, is notchy at best. The clutch is hard to modulate. It's a race car. Do I think I might have purchased the wrong car? Some days, that answer is yes. Some days its no. Each shift is so hard to smooth out, that the car is hard to handle as a daily driver.
Bring your car to the dealer and have your linkage checked. Somebody else posted about an issue similar to yours a while back and it was completely eliminated by his dealership.
09-21-2009, 04:40 PM
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09-21-2009, 05:02 PM
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09-21-2009, 11:47 PM
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Here's why, the shifting, is notchy at best. The clutch is hard to modulate. It's a race car. Do I think I might have purchased the wrong car? Some days, that answer is yes. Some days its no. Each shift is so hard to smooth out, that the car is hard to handle as a daily driver.
09-22-2009, 04:55 PM
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The way I read the OP's post, is he is driving it in daily traffic the way one would drive at the racetrack; that is, keep it near redline or in the upper revs. So he is downshifting into 2nd on surface streets and interstate commutes.
I was just thinking that the behaviour many of us get out of our cars in daily driving isn't the same for what the OP gets, because he is driving his car differently in daily driving.
You and I may be having smooth as butter shifts, but we are shifting around 2000 or 3000 rpm. I, at least, am not trying to shift into 2nd at 50mph as I exit the interstate or whatever he's doing.
I was just thinking that the behaviour many of us get out of our cars in daily driving isn't the same for what the OP gets, because he is driving his car differently in daily driving.
You and I may be having smooth as butter shifts, but we are shifting around 2000 or 3000 rpm. I, at least, am not trying to shift into 2nd at 50mph as I exit the interstate or whatever he's doing.
09-22-2009, 05:09 PM
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The way I read the OP's post, is he is driving it in daily traffic the way one would drive at the racetrack; that is, keep it near redline or in the upper revs. So he is downshifting into 2nd on surface streets and interstate commutes.
I was just thinking that the behaviour many of us get out of our cars in daily driving isn't the same for what the OP gets, because he is driving his car differently in daily driving.
You and I may be having smooth as butter shifts, but we are shifting around 2000 or 3000 rpm. I, at least, am not trying to shift into 2nd at 50mph as I exit the interstate or whatever he's doing.
I was just thinking that the behaviour many of us get out of our cars in daily driving isn't the same for what the OP gets, because he is driving his car differently in daily driving.
You and I may be having smooth as butter shifts, but we are shifting around 2000 or 3000 rpm. I, at least, am not trying to shift into 2nd at 50mph as I exit the interstate or whatever he's doing.
I've taken it to the dealer, had the REP from Porsche tell me there is nothing wrong. But it really sucks to have a car that is a beast to drive, but when you want to go and downshift to become a little sporty, the car almost refuses to do this. I am told I need to rev match or double clutch.
But I ask you this. At 50 mph, coming out into a turn, should you be doign all this rev match stuff, or just taking the turn not worryign that your car will go "clunk" with the transmission?
I am now looking into the arbitors. Porsche has officially told me I am wrong, nothing is wrong with the car. I disagree. Anyone in the RI, MA area want to drive a base 911 just to see if this is real? I almost need a few people to evaluate... besides two dealers and a porsche rep.
09-22-2009, 06:03 PM
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09-23-2009, 10:35 AM
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I admit I have to accomidate to drive this car fast, but i am learning. Just wish I knew if it was me or the car...
09-23-2009, 12:46 PM
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None taken. I guess BMW just makes a smoother transmission I can deal with... Having driven BMW for years, I am used to the isolated clicks more than the thumps and thuds the Porsche transmission makes.
I am glad I asked the board. Seems like this is a normal issue with all 911s. I can now see why PDK is popular...
I am glad I asked the board. Seems like this is a normal issue with all 911s. I can now see why PDK is popular...