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Old 07-01-2009, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by djcxxx
It would be ironic indeed if the man who saved the independence of Porsche in the 90s (Wedeking) is same man who becomes responsible for Porsche becoming the tenth brand of VW.
Not ironic, just well deserved.
Old 07-01-2009, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ltc
Not ironic, just well deserved.
You mean to say you fail to see the irony in that prospect?
Old 07-01-2009, 08:17 PM
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I'm surprised the Boxster/Cayman numbers are so low, the 987.2's have only been out a few months and are getting great reviews. Only 46 Boxster S sales for June!
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If you look at it in only "business" terms...they are in the same situation that many, many companies are in. Hopefully there are reserves enough to see them through until this "economic period" has passed!
Old 07-01-2009, 08:37 PM
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no, this is the "new normal".

What they need to do now is:

- shrink the dealer network, because there are too many dealers given the sales numbers.

- introduce that lower cost 4 cylinder roadster below the Boxster, they need a lower price point car that can do some volume.

Of course, first they need to close the Qatar financing deal.
Old 07-01-2009, 09:08 PM
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Makes me want to go buy another one. Must be some motivated sales managers out there?
Old 07-01-2009, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Swoody
Hopefully there are reserves enough to see them through until this "economic period" has passed!
Actually they are many billions of dollars in debt. You would be better off putting your hope in the banks that hold the paper.
Old 07-02-2009, 10:28 AM
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I'd imagine used cars sales are keeping the lights on for many Porsche dealers.
But, those new car numbers are terrible...no way to put a positive spin on that.
Old 07-02-2009, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by russo
There is a great deal of uncertainty in today's economy which if further compounded by the policies of the current administration. Even if the economy recovers in the next 12 months we are all going to get hit with higher taxes. Higher taxes mean less disposable income which translates into a prolonged recession.
Agree 100% - We've already been hit with an increase in State Income Tax and as a bonus a 25% increase in county real estate taxes.
Old 07-02-2009, 01:01 PM
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Surprised to see the 911 S models are all ahead of their non S models in sales.
Even though the non S model is a great package it shows that HP does sell. I was in the dealer the other day and over heard a wife and husband talking.
He said he had to have the S because it is so much better. The wife just replied, your lucky just to even get one.
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Originally Posted by russo
There is a great deal of uncertainty in today's economy which if further compounded by the policies of the current administration. Even if the economy recovers in the next 12 months we are all going to get hit with higher taxes. Higher taxes mean less disposable income which translates into a prolonged recession.
Now if you can only convince the rest of the country of this.....well, with our public educational system and no education in economics no wonder why people think socialism is good.
But you are right....the bottom line if gov takes your money their will be less money to spend on goodies. Oh, I know.....the government will make sure will all have a new P in our garage for free!

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Old 07-02-2009, 09:09 PM
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Shades of the mid-90s, but fortunately (? misery loves company?) others are roughly in the ballpark...
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Originally Posted by CBejbl
Makes me want to go buy another one. Must be some motivated sales managers out there?
Not sure about the rest of the country, but I can attest to the fact that the sales managers in the Pacific Northwest (where Oregon has the 2nd highest unemployment in the country) are clueless. When I was looking for cars in the last few months (before I bought my car from a private party in California), the dealerships in Oregon and Washington seemed to be completely out of touch with what $$$ would get a sale. I had cash in hand and I was astounded on the prices these dealerships, sales advisers, and sales managers were trying to hold to. After buying my car, I've gone back to their inventory and they are still sitting on every car I looked to buy. Oh well, I guess they know better than I do (and I guess I shouldn't care because I can drive my car while they let theirs collect dust on the showroom floor our outside lot).
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Couldn't agree with you more. Price examples from the 2 Oregon dealers: Used Carrera non-S, asking $70K. New 2009 C4S, $103K MSRP, only $5K discount.

I can't afford to pay the Northwest prices so I have to buy out of state/region...

Originally Posted by JoeShark
Not sure about the rest of the country, but I can attest to the fact that the sales managers in the Pacific Northwest (where Oregon has the 2nd highest unemployment in the country) are clueless. When I was looking for cars in the last few months (before I bought my car from a private party in California), the dealerships in Oregon and Washington seemed to be completely out of touch with what $$$ would get a sale. I had cash in hand and I was astounded on the prices these dealerships, sales advisers, and sales managers were trying to hold to. After buying my car, I've gone back to their inventory and they are still sitting on every car I looked to buy. Oh well, I guess they know better than I do (and I guess I shouldn't care because I can drive my car while they let theirs collect dust on the showroom floor our outside lot).
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Originally Posted by 79 911SC
Couldn't agree with you more. Price examples from the 2 Oregon dealers: Used Carrera non-S, asking $70K. New 2009 C4S, $103K MSRP, only $5K discount.

I can't afford to pay the Northwest prices so I have to buy out of state/region...
Yup, I went and bought my car from a total auto enthusiasts in Northern California. He was great to work with, took better care of his care than ANY dealer would, and we both came to an agreed upon price that NO dealer I contacted in Oregon and Washington could even come close to.

Hope these dealers pull their heads out of the sand before the find the doors locked and all their inventory pulled out from under their noses by their lenders.



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