Porsche dealers = snobs??
#91
Dressing appropriately... I can barely stand to be in a room with someone who's values require a specific dress code. Are we in the Victorian-era England? I do not for one minute buy that carrying yourself properly requires a certain set of clothes and a certain brand of watch.
I agree with being respectful, setting appointments and being assertive with my dealings with a car dealer, but as for a cars salesperson profiling a potential customer solely based on attire before they share one word... that my friends is the mark of an idiot.
And who has time to spend with idiots, even less hand over $100k.
p.s. this was not a flame towards bbrc76, his post was very even handed. I picked his post to quote from because it was the closet to the end of this thread that spoke about "profiling"
I agree with being respectful, setting appointments and being assertive with my dealings with a car dealer, but as for a cars salesperson profiling a potential customer solely based on attire before they share one word... that my friends is the mark of an idiot.
And who has time to spend with idiots, even less hand over $100k.
p.s. this was not a flame towards bbrc76, his post was very even handed. I picked his post to quote from because it was the closet to the end of this thread that spoke about "profiling"
I think we should all grab a drink and put this one to bed.
now I'm gonna cause an argument as to what's an "appropriate" drink...
#92
*please oh dear lawrd nooooooOOOooo*
failzphone...
#95
Here in Socal...Newport beach, next door......I see Ferrari's, Lambo's etc everyday of the week...a P-car (even a turbo) is here considered a Camry!! My 10 year POS is kind of a old VW bug in the eyes of everybody else but my 2 yr old daughter and this keeps me very humble.....and still I will NOT dress up..for those sales dudes!!!
#96
#97
Next thing you'll tell me that red cars are too flashy.
(for the record, I don't own flip flops of the $500 or $5 variety)
#98
One of my mother's good friends is worth hundreds of millions of dollars (yes...that would be US dollars). He has a stable of two Ferraris, three Porsches, and a Honda Element, and that just in the US...more in Switzerland. He paid cash for each of them. (The Honda might have been pocket change. ) Not one single time did he go to the dealer wearing a suit. His typical daily attire is shorts, sandals, an un-tucked t-shirt, and sunglasses. He doesn't look like a slob. He had three salesdrones size him up as a lookie-lou when he bought his 996TT. He ended up talking directly to the sales manager since none of the drones would talk to him. I was with him and recall their reactions when I drove the Element away and he was pulling out in the new TT he had just paid for with a personal check. That was priceless.
Don't let appearances fool you. Some of the best contacts I have wear jeans to the office every day. I'm on the technical side of sales, and carry a roughly $30M quota. Those guys in the jeans are the ones who help me make it.
#99
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I bought my son a new Tacoma last Tuesday. Even after going through all the pre purchase BS on the computer, the phone and paying cash it was still a crummy experience(dealt with four different people) I kept thinking to myself it is such a better experience buying a Porsche, Lexus, Benz, etc.
#100
have to say that in looking for my first 911 I haven't met many jerks....most seem helpful....thought a number have been not very responsive....perhaps they were looking for buyers to sign up in a few minutes....but most guys have been helpful. Seems that Porsche dealer seek high prices....or want to charge outrageous prices to CPO cars....many of them seem to list cars....and then tell you later that the car hasn't been CPO....but if I pay all the cost....then they will do it....mmm feels like bottom line dollars for them
#101
I bought my son a new Tacoma last Tuesday. Even after going through all the pre purchase BS on the computer, the phone and paying cash it was still a crummy experience(dealt with four different people) I kept thinking to myself it is such a better experience buying a Porsche, Lexus, Benz, etc.
#102
I don't think the OP said anything about looking like a slob. Dressing in jeans, a t-shirt, sneakers, and a baseball cap is not necessarily being a slob. I've seen people in suits who look like slobs.
One of my mother's good friends is worth hundreds of millions of dollars (yes...that would be US dollars). He has a stable of two Ferraris, three Porsches, and a Honda Element, and that just in the US...more in Switzerland. He paid cash for each of them. (The Honda might have been pocket change. ) Not one single time did he go to the dealer wearing a suit. His typical daily attire is shorts, sandals, an un-tucked t-shirt, and sunglasses. He doesn't look like a slob. He had three salesdrones size him up as a lookie-lou when he bought his 996TT. He ended up talking directly to the sales manager since none of the drones would talk to him. I was with him and recall their reactions when I drove the Element away and he was pulling out in the new TT he had just paid for with a personal check. That was priceless.
Don't let appearances fool you. Some of the best contacts I have wear jeans to the office every day. I'm on the technical side of sales, and carry a roughly $30M quota. Those guys in the jeans are the ones who help me make it.
One of my mother's good friends is worth hundreds of millions of dollars (yes...that would be US dollars). He has a stable of two Ferraris, three Porsches, and a Honda Element, and that just in the US...more in Switzerland. He paid cash for each of them. (The Honda might have been pocket change. ) Not one single time did he go to the dealer wearing a suit. His typical daily attire is shorts, sandals, an un-tucked t-shirt, and sunglasses. He doesn't look like a slob. He had three salesdrones size him up as a lookie-lou when he bought his 996TT. He ended up talking directly to the sales manager since none of the drones would talk to him. I was with him and recall their reactions when I drove the Element away and he was pulling out in the new TT he had just paid for with a personal check. That was priceless.
Don't let appearances fool you. Some of the best contacts I have wear jeans to the office every day. I'm on the technical side of sales, and carry a roughly $30M quota. Those guys in the jeans are the ones who help me make it.
#103
I went into the dealership last friday with jeans and a tee shirt. The sales people looked at me like what are you doing here. I was considering buying a used A6 that day. The funny thing is last year I made more then all three of those twits. And i bought a used 911 turbo for 38 instead of 50. Now I can spend 12k getting her going. I agree those twits lose more sales due to their ignorance.
#105
I still remember when I was about 17 getting treated like crap by a dealer; paid cash for a new car at another dealer the next day.
I understand the need for salesmen to size up prospects, but I think it takes a lot more than a first glance at clothes. I think most people can be sized up fairly quickly by talking for a few minutes, although I guess more than a few with **** for brains might also have money. I wore a suit and tie every work day for decades; lately I am leaving the ties home most of the time but still in nice slacks, dress shirt and jacket; but on weekends (when I would more frequently visit the dealer) I tend to go very, very casual. Fortunately, I have bought all the cars listed in my sig at the same dealer, they know me well, they take my personal check without i.d., and life is good.
I understand the need for salesmen to size up prospects, but I think it takes a lot more than a first glance at clothes. I think most people can be sized up fairly quickly by talking for a few minutes, although I guess more than a few with **** for brains might also have money. I wore a suit and tie every work day for decades; lately I am leaving the ties home most of the time but still in nice slacks, dress shirt and jacket; but on weekends (when I would more frequently visit the dealer) I tend to go very, very casual. Fortunately, I have bought all the cars listed in my sig at the same dealer, they know me well, they take my personal check without i.d., and life is good.