Will it happen to us? and when.... happened to 993 owners, 996 owners....
03-11-2009, 11:37 PM
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Take a look at the Panamera. Latest design, right? The instrument cluster is very very close to 997.
I happen to like the passenger side treatment of the dash on the Panamera (997 is a bit plain)
and would like to see that incorporated in future 911s.
I agree with Edgy01..it will be a variation on a theme. 996 interior--not quite up the the feel of the rest of the car.
A good friend of mine had 4 70-80 911s. As soon as he saw my car, he was amazed at how it brought back modern styling clues to his earlier 911s-exterior (lights) and interior-insturments. Now he wants another Porsche.
I happen to like the passenger side treatment of the dash on the Panamera (997 is a bit plain)
and would like to see that incorporated in future 911s.
I agree with Edgy01..it will be a variation on a theme. 996 interior--not quite up the the feel of the rest of the car.
A good friend of mine had 4 70-80 911s. As soon as he saw my car, he was amazed at how it brought back modern styling clues to his earlier 911s-exterior (lights) and interior-insturments. Now he wants another Porsche.
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03-12-2009, 01:20 AM
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The whole "hard core sports car" buyer/owner with no care for the interior isn't something I personally believe in....
Interior design matters....
If it did not then why are the cars of owners that do not care not gutted, stripped to baremetal to save weight thus increase performance?
I agree the 997's interior is leaps above a 996....
Interior design matters....
If it did not then why are the cars of owners that do not care not gutted, stripped to baremetal to save weight thus increase performance?
I agree the 997's interior is leaps above a 996....
don't mean to argue with you.
but if my 997 comes with either the 996 or 993 interior, I will still buy it.
having an interior that is not attractive is very much different than baremetal interior.
03-12-2009, 01:29 AM
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The Panamera center console is a disaster if you ask me.
03-12-2009, 08:16 AM
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Not just the interior
On the Corvette it's not just the interior. The car also has to come from a Chevy dealer. That's a big deal for a lot of us, and it drags the car downmarket.
I have a Land Cruiser, and it's the same thing there. Because it's a LC, Toyota charges German-car parts and labor for everything. Granted, it was really expensive when new. But when I take it in, I have to stand 3 deep in line behind everyone getting the oil changed in their leased Yaris or Camry. The service guy doesn't know my name. There's no loaner. I'm just one of the unwashed masses.
I have a Land Cruiser, and it's the same thing there. Because it's a LC, Toyota charges German-car parts and labor for everything. Granted, it was really expensive when new. But when I take it in, I have to stand 3 deep in line behind everyone getting the oil changed in their leased Yaris or Camry. The service guy doesn't know my name. There's no loaner. I'm just one of the unwashed masses.
03-12-2009, 08:43 AM
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On the Corvette it's not just the interior. The car also has to come from a Chevy dealer. That's a big deal for a lot of us, and it drags the car downmarket.
I have a Land Cruiser, and it's the same thing there. Because it's a LC, Toyota charges German-car parts and labor for everything. Granted, it was really expensive when new. But when I take it in, I have to stand 3 deep in line behind everyone getting the oil changed in their leased Yaris or Camry. The service guy doesn't know my name. There's no loaner. I'm just one of the unwashed masses.
I have a Land Cruiser, and it's the same thing there. Because it's a LC, Toyota charges German-car parts and labor for everything. Granted, it was really expensive when new. But when I take it in, I have to stand 3 deep in line behind everyone getting the oil changed in their leased Yaris or Camry. The service guy doesn't know my name. There's no loaner. I'm just one of the unwashed masses.
03-12-2009, 10:23 AM
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03-12-2009, 10:33 AM
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No worries, just a spirited topic and by no means want to argue. Just differences of opinions which is what forums are all about...
If my 997 came with a 996 interior or one I dis-liked I would have gone with a NSX (dare I state here but being honest....) and compromised some of my things in the decsision criteria process to get the 997. I Maybe different then many on my criteria but here are the things that made me go 997 on top of the standard goodness the 997 comes with.
Back seats - Yes important to me, new father here and sunday ocean drives with my wife and child was importsnt to me.
Interior - I love the gauge cluster set up, love the silver gauges (so much it was the first mod to swap out the black for silver). I maybe one of the few that like the gimikie sport chono wart.... My s2000 digital read out was painful.
Reliability - For a semi exotic car has a great track record of reliability overall. Maybe a notch below the NSX but light years ahead of entry level AM's. Lotus, ferrari's etc...
I liked that the 997 does a lot well and many things Great.... one thing that I do really like is the interior...Can't see in the pics but swapped out my black belts for silver, very subtle difference (not like red or yellow belts that stand out in a nice way also) and compliments the cluster and even pedal kit.
If my 997 came with a 996 interior or one I dis-liked I would have gone with a NSX (dare I state here but being honest....) and compromised some of my things in the decsision criteria process to get the 997. I Maybe different then many on my criteria but here are the things that made me go 997 on top of the standard goodness the 997 comes with.
Back seats - Yes important to me, new father here and sunday ocean drives with my wife and child was importsnt to me.
Interior - I love the gauge cluster set up, love the silver gauges (so much it was the first mod to swap out the black for silver). I maybe one of the few that like the gimikie sport chono wart.... My s2000 digital read out was painful.
Reliability - For a semi exotic car has a great track record of reliability overall. Maybe a notch below the NSX but light years ahead of entry level AM's. Lotus, ferrari's etc...
I liked that the 997 does a lot well and many things Great.... one thing that I do really like is the interior...Can't see in the pics but swapped out my black belts for silver, very subtle difference (not like red or yellow belts that stand out in a nice way also) and compliments the cluster and even pedal kit.
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03-12-2009, 10:51 AM
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I have the silver gauges and would prefer the black. I am an old guy so I remember the early 911s and their black gauge faces.
A car's interior is important. I like the interior of the F430 Ferrari much more than the 360 but the exterior styling of the 360 appeals to me more. What's the difference..can't afford either.
I love the 997.1...its a magnificent automobile in every way.
A car's interior is important. I like the interior of the F430 Ferrari much more than the 360 but the exterior styling of the 360 appeals to me more. What's the difference..can't afford either.
I love the 997.1...its a magnificent automobile in every way.
03-12-2009, 10:53 AM
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Black is an easy swap...
If you want black I am sure many black owners would swap out their cluster and trade.... dealer charge to re=program with accurat mileage and install etc is about $200.... you could make that up in the swap as I believe many black gauge owners would swap their black plus 200 for your silver.... at least I would have...
I have the silver gauges and would prefer the black. I am an old guy so I remember the early 911s and their black gauge faces.
A car's interior is important. I like the interior of the F430 Ferrari much more than the 360 but the exterior styling of the 360 appeals to me more. What's the difference..can't afford either.
I love the 997.1...its a magnificent automobile in every way.
A car's interior is important. I like the interior of the F430 Ferrari much more than the 360 but the exterior styling of the 360 appeals to me more. What's the difference..can't afford either.
I love the 997.1...its a magnificent automobile in every way.
03-13-2009, 12:33 AM
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The 996 had a horrific interior.
Pre-996 interiors were little changed since 1963. I realize that the majority posting here at best are familiar with only the 993 as the 'older' 911. Yet that car was the pinnacle of all 911s pre-dating it, and all such interiors were very similar, and a desirable component, in line with the timeless nature of the exterior. The departure of the 996 was, in great part, an attempt to lure comfort-oriented buyers to the marque.
911's are to a great, great degree about tradition. Those who balk at that should buy a Z car (lots of women do).
Pre-996 interiors were little changed since 1963. I realize that the majority posting here at best are familiar with only the 993 as the 'older' 911. Yet that car was the pinnacle of all 911s pre-dating it, and all such interiors were very similar, and a desirable component, in line with the timeless nature of the exterior. The departure of the 996 was, in great part, an attempt to lure comfort-oriented buyers to the marque.
911's are to a great, great degree about tradition. Those who balk at that should buy a Z car (lots of women do).
03-13-2009, 03:55 AM
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The Lexus leather and wood package ... My eyes are burning ... 
I actually like the 996 interior better than the 997. The lines flow w/the car better and the "aluminum look" ( painted plastic ) on the 997 is embarrassment.
Even 350Z have real aluminum. Porsche was going backwards w/the 997 interior trying to invoke the air-cooled look while using parts from the Cayenne.
Granted the 996 interior needs to have full leather and some other bits, but IMHO the lines are more modern and go w/he car better.
The 997 exterior looks better and the 2009s are the first 911 since my 2001 that I'm tempted to upgrade to.
I know wood isn't for everyone, but I really like my car's interior. If it only had Launch Control.
Even 350Z have real aluminum. Porsche was going backwards w/the 997 interior trying to invoke the air-cooled look while using parts from the Cayenne.
Granted the 996 interior needs to have full leather and some other bits, but IMHO the lines are more modern and go w/he car better.
The 997 exterior looks better and the 2009s are the first 911 since my 2001 that I'm tempted to upgrade to.
I know wood isn't for everyone, but I really like my car's interior. If it only had Launch Control.
03-13-2009, 11:46 AM
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03-13-2009, 11:47 AM
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In this car - the interior is important to me. I'm not a big fan of the 996 interior. If the 997 had the 996 interior I would have chosen a 993 instead.
If this were my track **** the interior wouldn't matter at all. Think Lotus Elise/Exige.
To be honest - I don't care that much for the interior of the standard 997. Without full leather and all that wonderful stitching it doesn't look like a 80-100K car to me.
IMO this car is more of a GT than an outright sports car so in a GT the interior definitely makes a statement.
My car's interior is probably a little too blingy for some here but I wanted to break up the all black...
Apologies for the cell phone pic...
If this were my track **** the interior wouldn't matter at all. Think Lotus Elise/Exige.
To be honest - I don't care that much for the interior of the standard 997. Without full leather and all that wonderful stitching it doesn't look like a 80-100K car to me.
IMO this car is more of a GT than an outright sports car so in a GT the interior definitely makes a statement.
My car's interior is probably a little too blingy for some here but I wanted to break up the all black...
Apologies for the cell phone pic...