997 Carrera S or 996 Turbo - Which To Buy???
07-17-2008, 03:09 PM
#16
the new P cars....
Just another thought, a new none S (once released) as an option, they have the same HP as the current S and will have the newest body design and technology. A current theme I have heard when considering P cars is try and buy the newest car you can afford. Assuming $ is a factor. That's a broad statement but just something to keep in mind is all.
In the same price range 60+K (used 996tt or 05+ 997s) you can consider an older 1998 993 turbo AWD.....400HP along with style and design some say un- matched even by cars 10 years newer! Interior well another story, but as far as cars go still an amazing machine.
You said daily driver, so keeping that in mind may revisit the notion of the newer model year.... good luck, the hunt is fun and lots of options out there.
The 996Turbo, wide body is an amazing machine, even with the headlamps not as attactive as the 997 still an awesome car.....
PPI a must and ideally cert pre owned if you go used with warranty if you can...
take care and happy hunting for your next Porsche
In the same price range 60+K (used 996tt or 05+ 997s) you can consider an older 1998 993 turbo AWD.....400HP along with style and design some say un- matched even by cars 10 years newer! Interior well another story, but as far as cars go still an amazing machine.
You said daily driver, so keeping that in mind may revisit the notion of the newer model year.... good luck, the hunt is fun and lots of options out there.
The 996Turbo, wide body is an amazing machine, even with the headlamps not as attactive as the 997 still an awesome car.....
PPI a must and ideally cert pre owned if you go used with warranty if you can...
take care and happy hunting for your next Porsche
Thanks for all the replies. You've really got me thinking. ;-)
I've had several Porsches in the past. I've had a 914, 944S, a Boxster, but no 911. Sometimes I can get the keys to my wife's Cayenne S Titanium Series away from her. We love the Cayenne S, BTW. The comments about a more modern interior are spot on. That's one of the things I thought about as I looked at the 996TT ads after driving the 997S. My first thought was, "Man, that dash looks dated." I never thought about it until I drove the S. Hmmm.
I don't want to diss any TT owners' or their cars, for sure. It was good to hear from several who have gone through the same process; choosing between a 997S or 996TT. I'm monitoring a similar thread over in the 996TT forum. I still want to drive a TT before making my decision. I'll have to find a dealer with one on the lot, since, out of respect, I have a hard and fast rule against joy rides in cars for sale by private party. If my test drive is for research, it's always in a dealer's car.
If I had to make my decision without first driving the 996TT, I'd lean heavily toward the 997S. It's plenty fast for my purposes, even though it may or may not be 996TT fast. I like the more modern interior, which is what I'll be looking at most. It appears my reliability concerns about the 996TT are unfounded, though I'd purchase an extended warranty, for sure.
But the curves of that 996TT are a sight to behold! Gotta drive one and see. ;-)
Anyway, thanks again for your responses.
Best,
Brad
I've had several Porsches in the past. I've had a 914, 944S, a Boxster, but no 911. Sometimes I can get the keys to my wife's Cayenne S Titanium Series away from her. We love the Cayenne S, BTW. The comments about a more modern interior are spot on. That's one of the things I thought about as I looked at the 996TT ads after driving the 997S. My first thought was, "Man, that dash looks dated." I never thought about it until I drove the S. Hmmm.
I don't want to diss any TT owners' or their cars, for sure. It was good to hear from several who have gone through the same process; choosing between a 997S or 996TT. I'm monitoring a similar thread over in the 996TT forum. I still want to drive a TT before making my decision. I'll have to find a dealer with one on the lot, since, out of respect, I have a hard and fast rule against joy rides in cars for sale by private party. If my test drive is for research, it's always in a dealer's car.
If I had to make my decision without first driving the 996TT, I'd lean heavily toward the 997S. It's plenty fast for my purposes, even though it may or may not be 996TT fast. I like the more modern interior, which is what I'll be looking at most. It appears my reliability concerns about the 996TT are unfounded, though I'd purchase an extended warranty, for sure.
But the curves of that 996TT are a sight to behold! Gotta drive one and see. ;-)
Anyway, thanks again for your responses.
Best,
Brad
07-18-2008, 01:02 AM
#19
Nordschleife Master
Yes I'll bet. They are not getting less frequent with the newer models. The 996 TT and 997 TT never have RMS leaks. You sir are in a dream state. Wake the f up.
07-18-2008, 05:41 AM
#21
Rennlist Member
The new seal is what has more or less resolved the issue.
07-18-2008, 06:21 PM
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07-18-2008, 07:10 PM
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C'mon, guys, let's play nice.
We all know that certain Pcars are prone to some niggling little problems like RMS leaks leading to catastrophic engine failure. ;-) What's a blown engine among friends? ;-(
That's probably not too funny to anyone who's had one let go. Sorry. Just trying to add a little levity.
I'm just trying to get some perspective from folks who have already had to make the choice between a 997S and 996TT.
I appreciate all your help!
Best,
Brad
We all know that certain Pcars are prone to some niggling little problems like RMS leaks leading to catastrophic engine failure. ;-) What's a blown engine among friends? ;-(
That's probably not too funny to anyone who's had one let go. Sorry. Just trying to add a little levity.
I'm just trying to get some perspective from folks who have already had to make the choice between a 997S and 996TT.
I appreciate all your help!
Best,
Brad
07-18-2008, 11:27 PM
#24
Race Director
GT1 derived blocks (996 & 997 Turbo and GT series cars) do suffer from RMS leaks. They do not seem to leak as often as wet sump 996 and 997 engines but they do leak on occasion.
As somebody else mentioned an improved RMS design (and emphasis on proper installation at the factory) has cut down on frequency of RMS leaks.
Do a search.
07-19-2008, 12:12 AM
#26
Racer
I would spend some time in the 996 turbo.
Turbos are intoxicating and there is more potential for power then the N/A 3.8 liter in the S.
I d vette both cars out before getting the S.
Cab
Turbos are intoxicating and there is more potential for power then the N/A 3.8 liter in the S.
I d vette both cars out before getting the S.
Cab
07-19-2008, 03:54 AM
#27
Nordschleife Master
My state of reality includes frequent visits to the 996 GT3/GT2, 997 GT3/GT2 & Turbo forums.
GT1 derived blocks (996 & 997 Turbo and GT series cars) do suffer from RMS leaks. They do not seem to leak as often as wet sump 996 and 997 engines but they do leak on occasion.
As somebody else mentioned an improved RMS design (and emphasis on proper installation at the factory) has cut down on frequency of RMS leaks.
Do a search.
GT1 derived blocks (996 & 997 Turbo and GT series cars) do suffer from RMS leaks. They do not seem to leak as often as wet sump 996 and 997 engines but they do leak on occasion.
As somebody else mentioned an improved RMS design (and emphasis on proper installation at the factory) has cut down on frequency of RMS leaks.
Do a search.
Your whole new msg contradicts your previous post. The only 964 block that started showing sign of rms was the 997 gt3.
07-19-2008, 11:10 AM
#28
Race Director
I know guys personally who had RMS failures in 996 GT3s.
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...&highlight=RMS
