Porsche paint soft?
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For whatever reason the hoods on the 997 seem to me to be more prone to "pitting" and chipping than those of the 996. I've detailed a few 997s (including my own) and they all seem to have pitting and chips. The 996 hoods that I've done don't seem to be nearly so prone to the chipping. Perhaps it's a combination of both the paint formulation and the aluminum hood?
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Deanski-what's your appraisal of the ceramiclear finishes compared with what Porsche is doing? You'd think Porsche would be exploring that option as a means of offering better paint protection. The film is OK, but detracts a bit from the overall appearance of the cars IMHO. I've got film on the front "bumper" area and use a Colgan on the hood portion for long trips. I like paint, not film
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I think its the water base,no VOC crap they are using.
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Deanski-what's your appraisal of the ceramiclear finishes compared with what Porsche is doing? You'd think Porsche would be exploring that option as a means of offering better paint protection. The film is OK, but detracts a bit from the overall appearance of the cars IMHO. I've got film on the front "bumper" area and use a Colgan on the hood portion for long trips. I like paint, not film
I do wish they offered the Ceramiclear finish. It really can take a beating for scratches, but rocks can still chip it. Not as brittle as some other paints and more forgiving, Ceramiclear is just a real PITA to correct when polishing. This is why Menzerna and a few others have followed with offering the same polishes used at the factory to aftermart and bodyshops.
I have film on my black C2S and I'm thankful every day! It doesn't look as bad as films in the past. The never films are very very clear, no orange peel, do not yellow. More shops offer custom fitments so if you wanted the entire hod covered it now can be done.
Every several years I remove the film, polish, then have it applied at the same time I finish with the polishing.
These new waterborn paints are very soft and were really designed to give more than chip. But now they seem to chip more than they did.
A newer finish has been developed that heals itself with heat. I've yet to play with it in the field, but have seen it.
For now, due to the low nature of the car and sof paint you have two choices, one have film installed or bra or two live with stone chips and touchups.
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I don't know about Porsche's paint, who knows what kind of roads the poster deals with. But the idea that the mandates on paint affect Porsche but not Audi just doesn't strike me as believable.
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This business is actually rather debatable. For instance, if you have hard paint it will fracture when hit by a rock (and therefore CHIP). If it were soft it would resist chipping. Thoughts?
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I'll tell you my secret. Wax the crap out of the car. I waxed it so often and had it so clean and protected with wax that most rocks just skip right off the car. Honestly from two Audis, virtually the same, the only difference was that I waxed the 2nd one better and the difference was clear.
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Well, things are not made the way they use to....
...many of them because of environmental laws
-paints are no longer oil based, I agree with the mercedes post
-fuels suck....don't come to california and expect good gas
-A/C don't cool as well as the old freon types
-with alcohol in the fuels....it may do a job on older car seals and injectors
-my wife's bra don't support the way they use to
-hell, even when I look myself in the mirror, mirrors are not made the way
they use to
-paints are no longer oil based, I agree with the mercedes post
-fuels suck....don't come to california and expect good gas
-A/C don't cool as well as the old freon types
-with alcohol in the fuels....it may do a job on older car seals and injectors
-my wife's bra don't support the way they use to
-hell, even when I look myself in the mirror, mirrors are not made the way
they use to
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