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Old 12-27-2007 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by cole328
No way drove the base carerra as the initial test drive and it felt slow and sluggish..great car, just no oomph. Got into the S immediately afterwards at the dealership and felt like night and day...bought the S that afternoon and have never looked back. I guess to each his own.
the 0-60 times differ by .2 seconds, so night and day? The difference I noticed was that because the S does not deliver its power as smoothly/linearly that at certain RPM levels it gave a bit of neck jerk the non S did not and that might explain what you call "oomph". I prefer the smoothness and willingness the 3.6 offers over the "oomph" of the S, but I could see your point from an adrenaline perspective.
Old 12-27-2007 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cole328
No way drove the base carerra as the initial test drive and it felt slow and sluggish..great car, just no oomph. Got into the S immediately afterwards at the dealership and felt like night and day...bought the S that afternoon and have never looked back. I guess to each his own.
Wow...I've never quite heard of the base 997 as being slow and sluggish.

You must have grown up driving Ferraris, Lambos and other faster exotics...but then the S would have felt a bit slow and sluggish as well...hmm...or maybe you are an experienced race car driver and can feel every tenth by the seat of your pants. That must be it.
Old 12-28-2007 | 12:03 AM
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I thought hard about the base car before I bought the "S". Prime reason for going with the "S" was the brakes and PASM sport mode. I had an '02 996 and had to change out the base suspension to the MO30because it was too soft as I track quite a bit. I didn't want to go through that again especially as the MO30 was not available in the U.S. this time around for the 997. I was also not super impressed with the brakes at the track on the 02 996 and it was my understanding they were exactly the same on the 997 base. The "S" brakes are great. I do wish the "S" was set up with 18s though. Will probably purchase a set of lightweight ones for the track this spring.
Old 12-28-2007 | 08:23 AM
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Thanks 4G you hit it right on the head! Seriously, to each his own
Old 12-29-2007 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by nyca
if you could get the brakes from the S as an option on the base - that would be great. Alot of people don't need the bigger engine, and don't want PASM or the 19" wheels, or the xenon lights. But you can never have enough brakes.
It's not a popular combo...but you can get PCCBs on the base 997. Seriously thinking about it for my next 997. Along with the new sport buckets, it will be a great street/track car.

I've had a non-S for three years, and not once wished for more power. I have run out of brakes on the track, however...
Old 01-22-2008 | 12:39 AM
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QUOTE=Alan Smithee;4927408]It's not a popular combo...but you can get PCCBs on the base 997. Seriously thinking about it for my next 997. Along with the new sport buckets, it will be a great street/track car.
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I was thinking exactly the same thing. Base 997, PCCB, GT2 seats and nothing else (keep it light) That would be a great car!
If only you could delete the stupid sunroof...
Old 01-22-2008 | 01:31 AM
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I see huge praise for the PCCBs on this site, and was tempted to make the change on my car when I saw a used set for sale for $6000. When I checked with a local Porsche shop that is highly recommended by other Rennlisters I learned that they have had GT3 owners come in to have their PCCBs replaced with steel brakes. The PCCBs do stop well, and are light weight, but apparently these owners have had heat problems when tracking. And components are expensive: for example the cost of each rotor is now $5200 just for the part. (If I had them on my car, I'd be buying that full set for $6000 in a heartbeat.) A true cost benefit analysis might be worthwhile before opting for them.
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Originally Posted by keninirvine
A true cost benefit analysis might be worthwhile before opting for them.
Been done. The Supercup teams all had to use PCCB's and from what I remember about what was said in the interview is that the cost for them is a wash between steel and PCCB's. If cost is no object and you want every last ounce of performance, get the PCCB's but most serious track junkies with 997's use steel. The main reason is cost. If you damage a rotor (think gravel trap) you are out alot of cash. Damage a steel rotor, who cares. And you will probably be able to find spares at the track.
Old 01-22-2008 | 01:15 PM
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Had PCCB in my ex-997S and steel brakes in current club coupe. PCCB gives a stronger initial bite that in turn gives you the "sense" of stronger brakes power. Been on the track with both 997S and can confirm that the steel brakes are more-than-adequate. It will last the whole track day and only at the last run it performs not as good as the am runs but still adequate. Advantage of PCCB on the track will be the reduced unsprung weights at the wheels which you really can feel and appreciate during turn-ins.

Haven't test drove a base 997 but I'm sure it is more power than most of us can use. Advantage of its ride will be the 18" wheels, which we can easily fit on our 997S.
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I ordered the "s" model cause every Porsche I have ever owned had an "s" on the badge.
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Old 01-22-2008 | 04:49 PM
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I'm in Delray too! Where about?

Nice car!
Old 01-22-2008 | 06:32 PM
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I live off of Germantown and my nursery is off atlantic west of pike.
Old 01-22-2008 | 07:16 PM
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there's a reason they sell multiple models...some people are happy with the minimum...others, ...well, we want the bells and whistles...
Old 01-22-2008 | 07:22 PM
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Old 01-22-2008 | 07:23 PM
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2006 911 Carrera S Cabriolet 997 320
BASE Porsche Base Model
98 Non-Metallic Paint to Sample
V5 Brown Top
TG Sand Beige Full Leather
P15 Power Seat Package
680 Bose High End Sound Package
342 Heated Front Seats
982 Supple Leather Front and Rear
M6C Cocoa Floor Mats
XSC Porsche Crest in Headrest
498 Delete Model Designation
267 Self Dimming Mirrors
451 Makassar Str Whl Multifctn
801 Makassar Package
XJT Rear Ctr. Console Makassar
XTT Door Finishers Makassar, Dark
XNG Instrument Surround in Leather
XMP Lthr Sun Visors Lighted Mirror
XTG Inner Sill Parts/Release-Lthr
2493 Exterior Color to Sample
789 997 Paint To Sample
670 Navigation for PCM
X54 Stainless Steel Exhaust Pipes
CDT Seat Belt Buckles Leather
CFS Belt Outlet B Pillar Makassar
CUL Windstop W/"Porsche"Lettering
CUV Storage Cmpt Lid W/Model Logo
CZD Interior Light Cover Leather
DAA Interior Pkg A Pillar Leather
EAB Makassar Package Switch Panel

I decided to go with several options. I plan on keeping my car for many years and I wanted it to be just the way it felt most comfortable to me.


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