Bilstein pss10's
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wondering when they are going to be available for a 997 C2 non-pasm and how much you think they will cost...i am debating wating for the pss10's because i have the sport chrono and i hear this works with that button, or just getting the pss9's...thanks
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no i dont have pasm, just sport button, base C2...its almost like the m3, it felt like the ride got a little harder in sport in that too, less body roll , but that didnt have active suspension either
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The PSS10 will not work on non-PASM systems. I mean it will stay in the open position (soft ride) if your P-car does not have the PASM module system. However, the PSS9 is for non-PASM systems. Since you already installed the H&R springs, which resulted the demise of a blown OEM strut, installation of new Bilstein struts or the PSS9 coil-over is a great choice for the non-PASM system.
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Not sure if it translates to 997s, but on my 993 the softest setting (9) is best for street use. It's still stiffer than stock sport suspension, but somehow more comfortable at the same time.
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The PSS9's are 9-way adjustable, the setting will depend on your region (potholes/nice roads). I would try setting #5 first and adjust from there... You will need the P-car aligned (aggressive or non-aggressive to conserve tire life). I believe the cost of the PSS9's are close to $2,500
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Sorry, but Sport doesn't change anything to do with the ride, steering, performance, etc. in non-PASM cars. Then again, it doesn't do much for PASM cars either (other than force people to put the suspension back into normal). In a nut-shell, Sport tricks you into thinking the car is faster -- it just advances the gas pedal ever so slightly, something your right foot could do all by itself.
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The PSS9's are 9-way adjustable, the setting will depend on your region (potholes/nice roads). I would try setting #5 first and adjust from there... You will need the P-car aligned (aggressive or non-aggressive to conserve tire life). I believe the cost of the PSS9's are close to $2,500
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Sorry, but Sport doesn't change anything to do with the ride, steering, performance, etc. in non-PASM cars. Then again, it doesn't do much for PASM cars either (other than force people to put the suspension back into normal). In a nut-shell, Sport tricks you into thinking the car is faster -- it just advances the gas pedal ever so slightly, something your right foot could do all by itself.
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In a semi-related subject, I read that Bilstein is releasing a new remote-control-stiffness suspension. It is similar to our PASM but without the fully integration with all the car's computer(s). What it has is a PASM-like cockpit remote control to change the stiffness. From the following news, it will be available for the whole Porsche line soon... ![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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SEMA 2007 Spotlight: Bilstein offering more stiff selections
Posted Nov 2nd 2007 2:58PM by Damon Lavrinc
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Although the big news from Bilstein is the upgrade from its PSS9 system to the PSS10 (essentially, adding one more level of damping to their struts), more impressive is the firm's new Electronic Ridecontrol system. Essentially, it's similar to Porsche's PASM system, without integration between the ECU to gather inputs from the throttle position sensor, traction control and steering angle sensor. Pushing the dash-mounted blue backlit button changes the strut's firmness from "Comfort" to "Sport," all within fractions of a second. The "Comfort" selection is still about 50-percent stiffer than stock, and currently it's available for the BMW E46, E90 and E60, along with the Mercedes E-Class (W211). Bilstein plans to develop the system for a number of other high-end applications, specifically the entire Porsche range, from the Boxster to the 996 and 997 911s. MSRP is just a few bucks over $3,000.
Posted Nov 2nd 2007 2:58PM by Damon Lavrinc
Filed under: Aftermarket, SEMA
Although the big news from Bilstein is the upgrade from its PSS9 system to the PSS10 (essentially, adding one more level of damping to their struts), more impressive is the firm's new Electronic Ridecontrol system. Essentially, it's similar to Porsche's PASM system, without integration between the ECU to gather inputs from the throttle position sensor, traction control and steering angle sensor. Pushing the dash-mounted blue backlit button changes the strut's firmness from "Comfort" to "Sport," all within fractions of a second. The "Comfort" selection is still about 50-percent stiffer than stock, and currently it's available for the BMW E46, E90 and E60, along with the Mercedes E-Class (W211). Bilstein plans to develop the system for a number of other high-end applications, specifically the entire Porsche range, from the Boxster to the 996 and 997 911s. MSRP is just a few bucks over $3,000.
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If you do not have PASM, sport mode does nothing for suspension compliance.
Sport mode only changes throttle mapping and shift points ( if a Tip car).
Some models also allow for Sport Exhaust.
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