View Poll Results: what do you have and what will you choose for next 911?
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DSG poll
09-12-2007, 08:30 PM
#31
For those that voted/are voting for DSG/PDK, have you considered that it will most likely be a very expensive option? The existing Tiptronic is $3,400, and Maserati charges $7,600 for a true automated manual on the similarly priced Coupe. I imagine DSG/PDK on the 911 will be somewhere in between.
09-12-2007, 09:15 PM
#32
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For those that voted/are voting for DSG/PDK, have you considered that it will most likely be a very expensive option? The existing Tiptronic is $3,400, and Maserati charges $7,600 for a true automated manual on the similarly priced Coupe. I imagine DSG/PDK on the 911 will be somewhere in between.
09-12-2007, 09:17 PM
#33
Race Director
Drove another Audi today with DSG! The DSG will rev match on down shifts!!! AWESOME! This will be the transmission for the track for me because it shifts very fast and sporty and the paddle shifter are better than the toggle switches on the steering wheel.
Still though if I had a left leg to push a clutch I can see why a lot of you would still want the 6speed. It was fun learning heal and toe but things have changed for me...
Still though if I had a left leg to push a clutch I can see why a lot of you would still want the 6speed. It was fun learning heal and toe but things have changed for me...
09-12-2007, 11:00 PM
#34
Rennlist Member
There's no way they will. Why would Porsche give people a less expensive option to have two pedals? The traditional automatic may continue on the Turbo where its huge torque works fine with only 5-speeds (and may not work so fine with dual clutches), but not alongside the DSG/PDK on other models.
09-13-2007, 11:42 AM
#36
Three Wheelin'
I like to tie my own shoe laces. I like to tie my own bow tie. I prefer opening bottles with a corkscrew rather than a twist off top. I prefer vinyl to CD's or mp3's.
It's the pleasure of involvement that makes it preferable to the alternatives. For sure DSG is probably faster, but that doesn't make it more enjoyable, and enjoyment is what I'm looking for from a sports car.
It's the pleasure of involvement that makes it preferable to the alternatives. For sure DSG is probably faster, but that doesn't make it more enjoyable, and enjoyment is what I'm looking for from a sports car.
09-13-2007, 05:26 PM
#37
Me too, except I don't wear bowties. 
I also brew my own beer, dry age beef myself(occasionally), and only own an iPod because it was a gift.
I think a common misconception is that DSG is an automatic transmission. You still shift every gear yourself. It still takes skill to do it right. It opens up a whole new category of extremely difficult to master and involving driving technique unavailable to legacy manual transmissions, namely left foot braking.
There is no right or wrong choice. Personally I would always own at least one legacy manual car because I enjoy that skill too. But all the condescending posts here implying that DSG is for wussies is misleading.
I also brew my own beer, dry age beef myself(occasionally), and only own an iPod because it was a gift.I think a common misconception is that DSG is an automatic transmission. You still shift every gear yourself. It still takes skill to do it right. It opens up a whole new category of extremely difficult to master and involving driving technique unavailable to legacy manual transmissions, namely left foot braking.
There is no right or wrong choice. Personally I would always own at least one legacy manual car because I enjoy that skill too. But all the condescending posts here implying that DSG is for wussies is misleading.
09-13-2007, 07:33 PM
#38
Nordschleife Master
...I think a common misconception is that DSG is an automatic transmission. You still shift every gear yourself. It still takes skill to do it right. It opens up a whole new category of extremely difficult to master and involving driving technique unavailable to legacy manual transmissions, namely left foot braking.
There is no right or wrong choice. Personally I would always own at least one legacy manual car because I enjoy that skill too. But all the condescending posts here implying that DSG is for wussies is misleading.
There is no right or wrong choice. Personally I would always own at least one legacy manual car because I enjoy that skill too. But all the condescending posts here implying that DSG is for wussies is misleading.
09-13-2007, 09:16 PM
#39
Rennlist Member
Dude, you need to try an Audi or VW with DSG. It's far more than "shifting times", and a lot more than "slightly" better. Instantaneous yet smooth, rev-matching downshifts, and gearing matched to the rest of the drivetrain make the slurry old 5-speed Tiptronic drive like a Powerglide in comparison.
Hopefully Porsche adopts their interface as well; the paddles work infinitely better than the Tip thumb switches, and having gear selection on the console is more convenient as well.
Hopefully Porsche adopts their interface as well; the paddles work infinitely better than the Tip thumb switches, and having gear selection on the console is more convenient as well.
09-13-2007, 09:17 PM
#40
Rennlist Member
Dude, you need to try an Audi or VW with DSG. It's far more than "shifting times", and a lot more than "slightly" better. Instantaneous yet smooth, rev-matching downshifts, and gearing matched to the rest of the drivetrain make the slurry old 5-speed Tiptronic drive like a Powerglide in comparison.
Hopefully Porsche adopts their interface as well; the paddles work infinitely better than the Tip thumb switches, and having gear selection on the console is more convenient as well.
Hopefully Porsche adopts their interface as well; the paddles work infinitely better than the Tip thumb switches, and having gear selection on the console is more convenient as well.