DFI...Early 09 Release*
09-11-2007, 10:30 PM
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It depends on whether you're ready to give up your clutch!!!
09-11-2007, 11:03 PM
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I appreciate your point, but think it depends on the situation. Cars don't update like computers. The life cycle of a computer is less than 4 months. Porsche's are on the order of 3-4 years. If you're not the type to change cars every few years, waiting a few months to be current for a few years can make sense. If the release ends up delayed into the following year ('09), I'll be buying right away as that's getting to where your point resonates with my circumstance.
I've had my 996 for 8 years, and a 944 for 9 years before that. Was going to get the 997 this fall but then caught wind of the DFI scheduled for next spring (maybe). I plan/hope to run the 997 for the better part of 10 years and it'll be a generation old soon enough, let alone 8 months from now. I'm relieved to have the rumors about the timing to be firming up for spring.
I've had my 996 for 8 years, and a 944 for 9 years before that. Was going to get the 997 this fall but then caught wind of the DFI scheduled for next spring (maybe). I plan/hope to run the 997 for the better part of 10 years and it'll be a generation old soon enough, let alone 8 months from now. I'm relieved to have the rumors about the timing to be firming up for spring.
In this case, adding DFI and some HP (as well as a transmission choice) may make the MY2009 more desireable when it comes time to sell. It may also make the car more desireable to own as well (for those waiting for a DSG). For me, I'd appreciate a bit more HP and better fuel economy. If I lease for 3 years, then I don't think the differences would be enough to make me wait for the '09 cars. If I buy, I will likely wait, (as long as I can get a car in the spring) as I would likely keep the car for 5 years.
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09-11-2007, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by gary mermel
Cars don't update like computers. The life cycle of a computer is less than 4 months. Porsche's are on the order of 3-4 years.
I'm with Dave: Buy it when you want it, don't wait for one new development after the other. I posted this before: You can always GET something later, but you can only WISH you had gotten something earlier. Therefore, even though I love DSG, I decided to buy my Turbo now and get a PDK Turbo in a few years.
09-12-2007, 07:54 PM
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Porsche also modifies its 997 product line (cab, GT3, Turbo, Targa, Turbo cab, GT2, etc.). So new developments that represent valid alternatives are definitely taking place faster than every 3-4 years.
....I love DSG, I decided to buy my Turbo now and get a PDK Turbo in a few years.
'06 seal/stone 997 C2S Cab (sold August 2007; dearly missed - experiencing strong withdrawal symptoms)
'08 basalt/stone 997 TT (January allocation; color on order has changed 683 times so far)
....I love DSG, I decided to buy my Turbo now and get a PDK Turbo in a few years.
'06 seal/stone 997 C2S Cab (sold August 2007; dearly missed - experiencing strong withdrawal symptoms)
'08 basalt/stone 997 TT (January allocation; color on order has changed 683 times so far)
And from your avatar and intent to replace your '08 turbo in "a few years", your circumstance is clearly different than mine. If I did that, I'd be wishing I had a retirement fund (or still had my wife
). I'm not judging your position, and envy it to an extent, but again, planning to have it well into the next decade, I'd rather at least START with a current/updated product....
09-12-2007, 08:19 PM
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What is this word "wife" I keep seeing being used around here so often and which always seems to be getting in the way of what the male wants or wants to do??? I have never had one of these, just lots of girl friends..can someone please elaborate on why I should entertain getting one vs. lots of girl friends; also are they expensive to maintain and can I keep the girlfriends at the same time?
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09-12-2007, 09:42 PM
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What is this word "wife" I keep seeing being used around here so often and which always seems to be getting in the way of what the male wants or wants to do??? I have never had one of these, just lots of girl friends..can someone please elaborate on why I should entertain getting one vs. lots of girl friends; also are they expensive to maintain and can I keep the girlfriends at the same time?
I cannot imagine life without her and she is even more special than my Porsche!!!!!!!!!!
And, I can ride either one whenever I feel like it.
09-13-2007, 12:00 AM
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PLEASE, Dave, do not scare me!!! So far I have successfully avoided all developments of this kind and intend to keep it that way. So Gary is right, no wife in my way, otherwise my situation might be different. I know there are probably some really good wives out there who might actually improve your life rather than making it miserable, but I think I'm with 500 on this... like me some milk but don't wanna buy that cow. 
09-13-2007, 12:28 AM
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DSG (which is what Audi used to call their version) is an automated 'manual' transmission, as opposed to Tiptronic, which is a traditional torque-converted automatic transmission.
VW/Audi's (and soon to be Porsche's) DSG differs from BMW and Ferrari automated manuals in that it has two clutches to smooth engagement and actually work well in fully-auto mode.
VW/Audi's (and soon to be Porsche's) DSG differs from BMW and Ferrari automated manuals in that it has two clutches to smooth engagement and actually work well in fully-auto mode.
09-13-2007, 02:09 AM
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DSG (which is what Audi used to call their version) is an automated 'manual' transmission, as opposed to Tiptronic, which is a traditional torque-converted automatic transmission.
VW/Audi's (and soon to be Porsche's) DSG differs from BMW and Ferrari automated manuals in that it has two clutches to smooth engagement and actually work well in fully-auto mode.
VW/Audi's (and soon to be Porsche's) DSG differs from BMW and Ferrari automated manuals in that it has two clutches to smooth engagement and actually work well in fully-auto mode.
09-13-2007, 02:43 AM
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You obviously haven't driven an Audi/VW DSG...there is absolutely no comparison.
09-13-2007, 02:34 PM
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PLEASE, Dave, do not scare me!!! So far I have successfully avoided all developments of this kind and intend to keep it that way. So Gary is right, no wife in my way, otherwise my situation might be different. I know there are probably some really good wives out there who might actually improve your life rather than making it miserable, but I think I'm with 500 on this... like me some milk but don't wanna buy that cow. Hey, my wife has already green lighted a TT (w/o my coaxing) and SHE thinks the thing to do would be a Euro delivery.
Hey, I'm just a regular guy,....except I have a 10 inch tongue and can breathe through my ears.
09-13-2007, 02:36 PM
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*I was told today by my dealership that the DFI cars will be here in April 2008 and released in May as an early 09's. LEDs w/ a mild F/R bumper cap resdesign, improved interior materials and a modest power increase are all part of the new car as will some other goodies. They did not have the specifics of the power change but I suggest it will be less than today's X51 cars as Porsche will not want to **** off those that just spent $15k on the upgrade. They did not guarantee the 09 info (how could they) but my contact there felt very confident in what he was telling me and I believe him for many reasons, but mostly in lieu of that I brought a friend there to buy a new 2008 9974S Cab and he suggested we wait a few more months and order an early 09; we greatly appreciated his candor. Either way and once again they will have earned our business.