Why no production 911 with flat 8 engine?
#17
Three Wheelin'
A flat-8 is longer. If you keep the rear engine configuration you add more mass further back behind the axle line. This increases the pendulum effect and means the car is a less nimbler handler. It also adds weight. In addition cooling needs to be increased. The gearbox needs to be stronger and likely heavier. All that weight means the brakes need to be uprated (Porsche offers PCCB's for free shock) which means unsprung weight increases. You end up in a vicious cycle of increasing weight and poorer handling.
The bigger and real question is how do you make the 911 compete with some of the newer "upstarts"? The key has to be weight reduction. Increasingly stringent emissions laws will mean that you can't go on increasing power and stay within those emissions laws. So make the car lighter to make it faster. Charge extra for lightness. Ferrari does with the CS. Lamborghini does with the Superleggera. Porsche already does with the Club version of the GT3.
Instead of charging $16,000 for X51, charge the same amount for a 200kg weight reduction. If you're going to the track or facing increasingly draconian emission laws which would you prefer?
The flat-8 may happen, but I wouldn't trust Top Gear to be on the button on anything other that Clarkson's ego needs. The fact that Porsche can built it doesn't mean they will or even if they did that it would go into the 911. I suspect you're more likely to see a hybrid 911 than one with a flat-8.
Weight watchers is what the 911 needs to sign up for, not a flat-8.
The bigger and real question is how do you make the 911 compete with some of the newer "upstarts"? The key has to be weight reduction. Increasingly stringent emissions laws will mean that you can't go on increasing power and stay within those emissions laws. So make the car lighter to make it faster. Charge extra for lightness. Ferrari does with the CS. Lamborghini does with the Superleggera. Porsche already does with the Club version of the GT3.
Instead of charging $16,000 for X51, charge the same amount for a 200kg weight reduction. If you're going to the track or facing increasingly draconian emission laws which would you prefer?
The flat-8 may happen, but I wouldn't trust Top Gear to be on the button on anything other that Clarkson's ego needs. The fact that Porsche can built it doesn't mean they will or even if they did that it would go into the 911. I suspect you're more likely to see a hybrid 911 than one with a flat-8.
Weight watchers is what the 911 needs to sign up for, not a flat-8.
#18
Originally Posted by Le Chef
A flat-8 is longer. If you keep the rear engine configuration you add more mass further back behind the axle line. This increases the pendulum effect and means the car is a less nimbler handler. It also adds weight. In addition cooling needs to be increased. The gearbox needs to be stronger and likely heavier. All that weight means the brakes need to be uprated (Porsche offers PCCB's for free shock) which means unsprung weight increases. You end up in a vicious cycle of increasing weight and poorer handling.
The bigger and real question is how do you make the 911 compete with some of the newer "upstarts"? The key has to be weight reduction. Increasingly stringent emissions laws will mean that you can't go on increasing power and stay within those emissions laws. So make the car lighter to make it faster. Charge extra for lightness. Ferrari does with the CS. Lamborghini does with the Superleggera. Porsche already does with the Club version of the GT3.
Instead of charging $16,000 for X51, charge the same amount for a 200kg weight reduction. If you're going to the track or facing increasingly draconian emission laws which would you prefer?
The flat-8 may happen, but I wouldn't trust Top Gear to be on the button on anything other that Clarkson's ego needs. The fact that Porsche can built it doesn't mean they will or even if they did that it would go into the 911. I suspect you're more likely to see a hybrid 911 than one with a flat-8.
Weight watchers is what the 911 needs to sign up for, not a flat-8.
The bigger and real question is how do you make the 911 compete with some of the newer "upstarts"? The key has to be weight reduction. Increasingly stringent emissions laws will mean that you can't go on increasing power and stay within those emissions laws. So make the car lighter to make it faster. Charge extra for lightness. Ferrari does with the CS. Lamborghini does with the Superleggera. Porsche already does with the Club version of the GT3.
Instead of charging $16,000 for X51, charge the same amount for a 200kg weight reduction. If you're going to the track or facing increasingly draconian emission laws which would you prefer?
The flat-8 may happen, but I wouldn't trust Top Gear to be on the button on anything other that Clarkson's ego needs. The fact that Porsche can built it doesn't mean they will or even if they did that it would go into the 911. I suspect you're more likely to see a hybrid 911 than one with a flat-8.
Weight watchers is what the 911 needs to sign up for, not a flat-8.
Logically, I think the next step would be something likethe Audi R8. But remember, they cannot risk fooling around with the Icon. The 911 is why they can sell all of those Cayennes, Boxsters and Caymanns!
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I can only imagine what it's going to sound like! I can't wait! I just wish that it wasn't going to be so damn expensive! don't get me wrong, it'll be worth every penny, but ... I like my money in my wallet and not theirs, you know?! UUUhhhh I can't wait! the only other engine that could come close to sounding as sweet is the Carrera GT's V10, (that thing is heavenly!) is a flat eight!!! For me... a flat 8 would be THE PERFECT platform to build around! I know what i'm about to say is borderline blasphemy, but I think it's time for change, and the 911 needs to either go, or change significantly. either way would be good, I mean Porsche has the Cayman which, IMO, is a better setup, not as sexy, but still better. They could make a flat 8 911, just make it longer and wider. I like the side 911's, like RWB's. Whatever Porsche does, I can't wait to see the results! It'll be nothing short of brilliant, for sure!
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Nordschleife Master
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