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Old 05-31-2007, 05:24 PM
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Precisely. I just don't see the value of regurgitating some companies talking points about their radar detector which has no relevance to me in day to day driving. I do find some value in knowing whether the threat is from the front or the rear but even that is small. Innundating the driver with all this superfluous information adds nothing.

No company propagnda (whether Valentine or K40) is going to make me change my mind about this. The only thing that would prompt me to get a different detector is if I found out that people with the K40 were getting speeding tickets because it failed them. So I'll ask again: has anyone gotten a speeding ticket with the K40? Has anyone gotten a speeding ticket with the V1?

It's really a pretty simple question that cuts through all the bull**** and mumbo jumbo and company propaganda and conflicts of interest etc.
Old 05-31-2007, 06:06 PM
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ok I'd like to chime in- I was sold K40 on my first 996 found it excellent at detecting dunkin donuts and quite anoying in the numebre of falses (esp in metro NY) but did find that the laser "diffuser" was effective. My next three cars had v1. Its installed at the headliner on the right side hardwired. I find the bogey counter very valuable as it tells you how true readings may be. I also have the k40 laser diffuser with this on all three cars. I like this combination and was initially putoff by having the box on the window, but i have been saved so many times I have no need to go back to the k40 detector which went off far to many times and didnt give me a real idea of what strength the threat was or where it was
Old 05-31-2007, 06:35 PM
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btw i have been pulled for speeding with both, instant on from the rear with v1, instant on from the front with k40- neither system will really protect you if you/'re the only car on the road and there are no other targets in front of you that you might get the stray hits from to indicate the threat.

Just this past weekend I was driving from NYC to ithaca and back for my sons graduation- tons of troopers very easy to detect as they were in constant on mode the v1 saved me on three definate occassions, but also was positive for many others (ie the officer was involved in pulling someone over or on the other side of the highway) any detector would have worked
Old 05-31-2007, 06:43 PM
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where in NY?, I grew up in Yonkers and spent many happy weekends at Cornell, where my now wife was a student
Old 05-31-2007, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by boolala
Precisely. I just don't see the value of regurgitating some companies talking points about their radar detector which has no relevance to me in day to day driving. I do find some value in knowing whether the threat is from the front or the rear but even that is small. Innundating the driver with all this superfluous information adds nothing.

No company propagnda (whether Valentine or K40) is going to make me change my mind about this. The only thing that would prompt me to get a different detector is if I found out that people with the K40 were getting speeding tickets because it failed them. So I'll ask again: has anyone gotten a speeding ticket with the K40? Has anyone gotten a speeding ticket with the V1?

It's really a pretty simple question that cuts through all the bull**** and mumbo jumbo and company propaganda and conflicts of interest etc.
I could not agree more with you. I use an Escort X50. I don't like the box hanging in the window, but I'm not willing to spend the money for a built-in system, so I'll stick with it. I've used a V1. Liked the arrows, but not worth the money to upgrade, so I'll stick with the Escort. It has saved me from tickets countless times, and I've not gotten a ticket...yet. I've turned off X band detection, and that eliminated a lot of false alarms. Still goes off at every CVS, Home Depot, and Public Storage.
Old 05-31-2007, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by peterm
ok I'd like to chime in- I was sold K40 on my first 996 found it excellent at detecting dunkin donuts and quite anoying in the numebre of falses (esp in metro NY) ....
Maybe I'm just accustomed to falses. 90% of my driving is on roads I've travelled on many times before so I know when to expect false alarms. Haven't had a dunkin donuts alarm yet but the automatic doors at Walgreens sure seem to set it off. Actually it was the absence of a false alarm at a nearby supermarket that tipped me off to the fact that my detector wasn't working (system shuts down if it can't communicate with the remote if the remote's battery is dead). I wouldn't want to be innundated with falses but an occasional one (with warnings from the front and rear) reassures me that the system is operational.
Old 05-31-2007, 09:34 PM
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boolala....Wow...I would think you would be alittle more itelligent since you own a P-Car but I see differently. Well my POS "Has Always performed better then your system that you paid 99% too much for". I'm sorry some people cant be educated when there is something better since some people believe a shiny brochure saying it jam's or detects better then anything else who whatever you read when you bought you system. Do I have to do some more testing and put it on video and compare my V1 and LPP against your system? Look on the web and you will see like a million actual videos of the V1 and LPP working against police radar and laser, then search for your system being tested in video form...good luck because the company that you bought that from likes to threaten to sue people, I'm about to go hog wide and test a million video's of the K40 and prove to you that it doesnt work, since the 1 video that I have CRUSHING THE K40 isnt enough for you. I would feel real bad also and defend my product if I got ripped off like what you are doing. Boolala......I'm still waiting for you to come up with some positive write ups or tests for the K40 or show me 1 real life or testing of K40 in action.
Old 05-31-2007, 09:49 PM
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I went to the www.k40.com link that Deanski kindly provided and I could not find a laser jammer test. I am curious why I've never seen the k40 tested against other lasre jammers.
Old 05-31-2007, 10:07 PM
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FWIWhttp://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/k40.htm
Old 05-31-2007, 10:13 PM
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I and others have personally tested the K40 Calibre vs. LPP (laser pro park), Escort ZR3, Bel LP 904/905, and the K40 Calibre was the most expensive and on the nicest car but it got both thumbs down in the testing. I will buy a K40 difuser and use it on different cars post videos of my results...oh yeah...I have already done that and the K40 laser jammer failed the test..what a waste of money. I have challenged anyone in the Seattle area or in the PNW area with a K40 for some testing but no one is up to the task, I wouldnt either but again I dont have the K40 I have the LPP which gets tested every day and there are tons of videos on the net and written tests...Cant say that for K40. All I can say is they we test fair and square and if anyone wants to attend any of our testing sessions by all means your welcome to attend.
Old 05-31-2007, 10:14 PM
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I and others have personally tested the K40 Calibre vs. LPP (laser pro park), Escort ZR3, Bel LP 904/905 and other jammers and the K40 Calibre was the most expensive and on the nicest car but it got both thumbs down in the testing. I will buy a K40 difuser and use it on different cars post videos of my results...oh yeah...I have already done that and the K40 laser jammer failed the test..what a waste of money. I have challenged anyone in the Seattle area or in the PNW area with a K40 for some testing but no one is up to the task, I wouldnt either but again I dont have the K40 I have the LPP which gets tested every day and there are tons of videos on the net and written tests...Cant say that for K40. All I can say is they we test fair and square and if anyone wants to attend any of our testing sessions by all means your welcome to attend.
Old 05-31-2007, 10:18 PM
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FWIWhttp://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/k40.htm is owned by SML and only tests products that they have accepted $$$ for testing. Anyone in the laser jammer business knows that SML have very tainted tested methods and is a joke. Next test please...
Old 05-31-2007, 10:26 PM
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Here check out this video....This video proves what I and others have been saying. The lambo even had 2 K40 jammer heads on mounted in the air ducts. Let me say it was a very nice install but the hardware was very cheesy. Look how fast and easy it was to get a speed and distance reading, btw we started shooting at 2,000 feet.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...706&pr=goog-sl
Old 05-31-2007, 10:27 PM
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Why haven't GOL tested the K40, either the radar detector or laser diffuser?
Old 05-31-2007, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by boolala
Well that's a lame excuse. The K40 gives you directional information too without that ugly box hanging off your windshield. You can use any laser jammer you want with it too, pcar's confusion about this matter notwithstanding.
I don't like boxes hanging on my windshield either, so I have it custom installed at the roof headliner by a metal clip. It's behind my visor which is fully functional.

Regarding the directional information, I like it combined with a counter as often I run across the same false alarm traps and I like to know if the extra (possibly real threat) is behind or in front. On my V1 I see a number.

Don't they say the K40 is $1k+? If so, it is over priced in my opinion. I also believe a detector will have better reception when mounted higher. But then, I'm not an electrical engineer. I'm willing to scarifice looks for better reception to save that ticket.

Will be happy to check out any real life objective comparison instead of isolated users' feedback.


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