geof

Aaron-

The picture in your signature: Is that Skyline Drive, facing east, just south of the Thornton Gap entrance?

evansaero

Yep,

You must have made this drive a couple times. I did it in the fall close to peak. All I can say it was the only time I wasn't looking to drive hard into the corners. It has to be right up there with Big Sur for my top 10 drives

Boxsterdoc47

thanks for the great posts and any new comments on discounting out there...????

Boxsterdoc47

PS......has anyone heard of porsche co. offering incentive disc or special financing for late spring??? saw it on aol auto

Boxsterdoc47

thanks for the grat comments and my quest continues....

98carrera4S

For what it's worth, I just got offered $80.5K for a build-to-order 2007 allocation Carrera Cabriolet without even trying to negotiate ($87.4K MSRP).

Some dealers are arrogant enough to expect you to pay MSRP for a build to order car. But you can find good dealers who are willing to negotiate if you're patient, look around, and are willing to take delivery outside of your local geography.

My bet is that high volume dealers are the most likely to negotiate, as are dealers in highly competitive markets, and ones that are located in areas where the demographics don't include a ton of high income households as a percentage of the general population.

Be persistent and good luck!

djantlive

just talk prices over the phone. less hassle and time wasted. if no price agreement, just hang up the phone and thank them.

fast1

So you got a 4.4% leasing rate??? Wow, we would all lease if we got that kind of leasing rate.

I have studied leasing very carefully since I'm a good candidate for a lease, but I have never seen one that makes financial sense except for those who are able to deduct the leasing expense. But hell, if I could get a 4.4% leasing rate, I'd lease every time. I'm wondering how the leasing company made any money from your deal, since your leasing rate is far below the prime interest rate.

I'm editing my post because I just went to lease compare to get quotes on a base $41K 335 with no options and a $2500 down payment. The following is what I got and it doesn't include taxes:

Bank Lease B 36 months - $21,473 - 0.00280 - $680
Bank Lease A 36 months - $20,648 - 0.00258 - $682
Bank Lease D 36 months - $16,518 - 0.00397 - $875
Compare Dealer Lease Quotes

Boxsterdoc47

djantlive.....great advice and i will do more of this....

br997

.00185 is the current BMW Financial buy rate for the 335 coupe. BMW allows dealers to mark up the MF .0004 over the buy rate, this is definitely a negotiable item.

fast1

That's a great leasing deal since it's obviously substantially below the market rate. I thought that the 335 coupe was a hot seller for BMW, but if they are subsidizing the lease rate, the car must not be selling as well as I believed.

Putt-Putt

I like the agressive MF's BMW puts out. Low lease prices and free maintenance for 4 years is sweet. Keeps their relatively expensive cars rolling out the door. They also offer agressive 24 mo. leases.

BMW makes their brand desireable and accessible, and the product doesn't dissappoint. The BMW and Porsche marketing approaches are really something to behold.

br997

BMW usually subsidizes the 2-3 year lease rates. The rates further out are not as competitive. As putt-putt said this keeps cars moving and keeps dealers happy. They get lease returns back that are still in warranty and can sell the car as certified. This also gives BMW more influence on thir used car prices.

Boxsterdoc47

does porsche do something similar??

br997

I honestly don't know I have never researched porsche leases. I purchased my p-cars.