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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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Doing my second track event at Thunderhill next week and was curious what are good psi values for front and rears.

During a few hours of spirited driving I am usually at 40psi rear and 34psi front.

But last time I was on the track the rears got up to 46 psi, way too high. It would also be nice to know how much I should deflate the tires before I start warming them up so I don't have to make a pit stop later when they are hot.

Thanks for any info!

ps. thanks RonCT I know we double post sometimes over at 6speed, just looking for more numbers!
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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With street tires, 40 hot is in the ball park. Tune from there to balance he car to your liking. I'd say that 46 hot is way too high.
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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46 WAY too hot (for MPS2s). My tires get slippy slidy at that pressure.

38-40 is where you want to be with equal pressures all around.

When it is super hot (like July/Aug) tire pressure will increase 8 lbs. from cold. When cooler a bit less.

I usually start at 32-34 and adjust as the day goes on.
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 03:14 AM
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Huh. On a very abrasive track this last weekend - my first 997 autocross - I ran really high pressures in the OEM PS2s, both to protect the outside edges and based on the pyrometer readings I got. I ran 42-43.5 hot front, and 48 hot rear. That was as high as I wanted to go and I bled air to keep the tires at those levels. Even at those pressures, I had these results: outer edge of the front outside tire was getting excessive wear and was running much hotter than the inside or the middle of the tire; the centers of both rear tires were cooler than the inside and outside; and the front inside tire had pretty even temps all the way across. So, for that lot, on that day, for this driver, pressures in the low-upper 40's were appropriate.

My camber was max negative on the front (1.3 deg.) and -2.5 deg. in the back.

On a smooth high speed track where a person isn't driving 10/10ths, I think significantly lower pressures could be better.
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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The best thing you can do is to measure your tire temperatures. Measure each one at the center of the tread area, on the inside portion of the tread. and the outside. (Write them down consistently).

The temperatures of the tires tell you a lot about what you're doing,--scrubbing, over steering, understeering, etc. One of the most secret things in racing is a guys tire pressures. It's like asking a Geisha to open her kimona...
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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How soon after the run do you measure the tire temperatures? Will the tires cool off in a few minutes that makes the measurement meaningless? What do you use to measure?
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 10:51 PM
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You must measure in the pits ASAP! Best to have an assistant (since you're strapped in). I measure with an infrared surface thermometer. (Used to use pyrometers)
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 11:53 PM
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Any of you with 2005-2007 C2S with any alignment numbers or tips?

thanks, Mike
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Thanks all for the tips!

Mike are you referring to the camber angle numbers? I'll have to dig them up, but left mine stock giving mild understeer and good wear at the back... rears may well make it to 15k
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