When will 998 be coming out?
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Originally Posted by gmoney99
Perhaps more importantly is the facelift to the 997. Cars have been spotted with (relatively) minor front and rear changes. I would expect this for the 2008 model along with a bump in HP.
I will throw out 380hp for the Carrera S and 350 for the Carrera to keep it in check with current HP war that seems to be brewing and 400hp the minimum level of entry for 55-70k performance oriented cars.
I just cant see Porsche being fine with an E92 M3 that outperforms the Carrera S. Its going to take 380 hp to do that.
Im not 100% sure but historically the 'x' packages of the current model seem to be very close in HP to the following Carrera model (in todays case the Carrera S has similar power to last models 'X' pacakge).
2010 as 2011 model for major change sounds about right, complete with 3.8 liter flat 6 with 360hp and 400hp 4 liter perhaps. Or I can stop dreaming.
I will throw out 380hp for the Carrera S and 350 for the Carrera to keep it in check with current HP war that seems to be brewing and 400hp the minimum level of entry for 55-70k performance oriented cars.
I just cant see Porsche being fine with an E92 M3 that outperforms the Carrera S. Its going to take 380 hp to do that.
Im not 100% sure but historically the 'x' packages of the current model seem to be very close in HP to the following Carrera model (in todays case the Carrera S has similar power to last models 'X' pacakge).
2010 as 2011 model for major change sounds about right, complete with 3.8 liter flat 6 with 360hp and 400hp 4 liter perhaps. Or I can stop dreaming.
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2010 CY/2011 MY for the 998
The facelifted 997's will get a 17 hp bump to 342 and 372 in the S, this makes sense as the facelifted base car will still have less hp than a pre- facelifted S and the current 997 X package cars will still have more hp that the facelifted non X cars even with the increase, this way Porsche gets to raise the power and still keep current 997 owners happy...BTW the torque will probably not change very much if any
The facelifted 997's will get a 17 hp bump to 342 and 372 in the S, this makes sense as the facelifted base car will still have less hp than a pre- facelifted S and the current 997 X package cars will still have more hp that the facelifted non X cars even with the increase, this way Porsche gets to raise the power and still keep current 997 owners happy...BTW the torque will probably not change very much if any
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Originally Posted by MrBonus
The E92 M3 is probably going to weigh in at around 3500 pounds. I don't think it will be doing any outperforming of the current 911.
Forget HP, think torque. The V8 will no doubt be much more generous vs. any 6 - flat or straight.
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Originally Posted by Le Chef
There are plenty of pics of that on the net already. But Porsche would be nuts to introduce it when they've just launched the TT and GT3. That's more likely an '08 MY introduction.
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Originally Posted by MrBonus
The E92 M3 is probably going to weigh in at around 3500 pounds. I don't think it will be doing any outperforming of the current 911.
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
It will definitely be more than that...the E92 335i is 3,650lbs, and the M3 will have a larger motor, larger brakes, and stouter suspension. The E92 already uses a lot of aluminum, so there won't be any significant weight savings with exotic materials on the M3, and rumor is that it will have a mandatory sunroof like the 997. My guess is that it will be a porky 3,750lbs.
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From: Back in the OC
Originally Posted by GrantG
993 was only 4 yrs (95-98)...
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From: Denver
Originally Posted by OCBen
Actually the 993 came out in '93, so that would make it 6 yrs.
See here and notice mention of 4 years of production history:
http://vista.pca.org/stl/993.htm
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LED tailights are coming with minor front and rear clip changes - think turbo look. No surprise really, they did it with the 996 and a refesh after 3 years is not abnormal for any car manufacturer (at least wheel changes, minor trim or lamp changes etc).
