Clear Bra: word of caution.....
#16
Originally Posted by mooty
sam from premier is right on. i have about 9 clear bras on my varoius cars. and sam is now the only installer i trust. he did three of my cars in the past and everyone is just about perfect.
#17
Originally Posted by boolala
Another way to avoid cuts is simply not to put a useless clear bra on it.
On some fiberglass cars like the Elise, the saran wrap might be a reluctant necessity -- like on the rocker panels for example.
I view a saran wrapped Porsche/Ferrari/Lambo/etc. as a poseurism (just my opinion ). I'd rather have the rock chips.
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Originally Posted by boolala
Another way to avoid cuts is simply not to put a useless clear bra on it.
In the interest of full disclosure....I am a customer of Premier and would highly recommend them to anyone looking for a clear bra.
#19
Had the ClearBra installed (partial hood, mirrors, A pillars, behind f/r tires and air dam) last week by a guy who drives an 06 C2S AeroKit (same as me). He came highly recommended from BMWCCA types and did a near perfect job. I observed him using a blade to trim did not see any cut marks (I will check it again). IMHO, the choice is a no brainer given how low this vehicle rides to the ground.
To those who are up in the air on the ClearBra issue, take a hard look at the type of driving you do, whether you routinely travel on an interstate doing 70++mph, whether you follow vehicles too closely, frequency of track events etc.
Just this morning I was convinced that I made the right choice; a local highway is being repaved over the next two weeks, pebbles and other shi*t flying everywhere...just knowing the car was protected gave me great peace of mind.
Did I have confidence in my installer? For sure. Does it look perfect? Close but no cigar. Does having it on the vehicle give me one less driving risk to worry about? Positively.
To those who are up in the air on the ClearBra issue, take a hard look at the type of driving you do, whether you routinely travel on an interstate doing 70++mph, whether you follow vehicles too closely, frequency of track events etc.
Just this morning I was convinced that I made the right choice; a local highway is being repaved over the next two weeks, pebbles and other shi*t flying everywhere...just knowing the car was protected gave me great peace of mind.
Did I have confidence in my installer? For sure. Does it look perfect? Close but no cigar. Does having it on the vehicle give me one less driving risk to worry about? Positively.
#20
Originally Posted by Premier Mobile
There are certainly ways to trim and cut on the paint w/o damaging the customers' cars, which we have done consistently with the 1500 vehicles we protect each year.
Unless you are putting a hard shield under the film and over the paint, there is a chance of too much pressure on the blade cutting through the film and the paint.
If you are useing a hard shield, what is to keep that from scratching the paint?
If you are relying on the skill of a human installer to maintain a constant pressure and speed, while adusting for the changes which occur as a blade wears, I see no reason why ANY installer will not occasionally cut too deep.
#21
Three Wheelin'
I almost wish there was some form of certification process so you don't have to worry about getting sliced. Maybe there is, I don't know. That's really scarey. You go in and pay big bucks to protect your car and they create worse damage than if you did nothing.
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My current Porsche is my first car to have the clear film on the front.
I would never own another Porsche without getting the film again. No one has ever noticed the film in three years unless I pointed it out first. I'm sure that the eagle eye of fanatics could pick it out, but it's near invisible at least on my seal grey car, and it looks a lot less noticeable than the rock chips I would have accumulated by now.
My commute involves a short run of highway, and it's impossible NOT to tailgate there. If I would leave more than two car lengths ahead of me, someone would cut in. That also means it's impossible to not get the nose of a low riding car pelted with debris. I feel much better having protection; to me it's a no-brainer. A re-paint of the nose of the car is not equivalent to the factory paint job.
I would never own another Porsche without getting the film again. No one has ever noticed the film in three years unless I pointed it out first. I'm sure that the eagle eye of fanatics could pick it out, but it's near invisible at least on my seal grey car, and it looks a lot less noticeable than the rock chips I would have accumulated by now.
My commute involves a short run of highway, and it's impossible NOT to tailgate there. If I would leave more than two car lengths ahead of me, someone would cut in. That also means it's impossible to not get the nose of a low riding car pelted with debris. I feel much better having protection; to me it's a no-brainer. A re-paint of the nose of the car is not equivalent to the factory paint job.
#23
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My dealer is doing a clear bra on my new C2S Thursday. The car is black and he say's it will hardly even show up. I HATE rock/sand bladted chips.
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Originally Posted by Fred2
Care to elaborate?
Unless you are putting a hard shield under the film and over the paint, there is a chance of too much pressure on the blade cutting through the film and the paint.
If you are useing a hard shield, what is to keep that from scratching the paint?
If you are relying on the skill of a human installer to maintain a constant pressure and speed, while adusting for the changes which occur as a blade wears, I see no reason why ANY installer will not occasionally cut too deep.
Unless you are putting a hard shield under the film and over the paint, there is a chance of too much pressure on the blade cutting through the film and the paint.
If you are useing a hard shield, what is to keep that from scratching the paint?
If you are relying on the skill of a human installer to maintain a constant pressure and speed, while adusting for the changes which occur as a blade wears, I see no reason why ANY installer will not occasionally cut too deep.
There is certain industry knowledge that sets us aside from the competition, which is why it is not something we discuss in an open forum. At the same time, it is the final results that we consistently push out that keeps us busy for the entire year with vehicles brought to us from different parts of the country.
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With our recent Tour to San Diego and OC, we found similar damage to more vehicles. Again, it is something we are seeing more frequent in the past 4-5 months, which is telling us that these companies are practicing on their customers' cars. We had a black CGT in SD that had damage on the bumper, a black GT2 with slices on the hood, a CaymanS on the bumper, yellow GT2 with incisions on the bumper, 650i with deep cuts on the hood and bumper, 360 Spider along the brake ducts, Gallardo's bumper damaged..........these are all that we see within a week.
When we suspect that there is damage underneath, we always remove the film with the customer present as witness.....in case installers attempt to accuse us of damaging these vehicles. In the end, it really comes down to business ethics and experience. We really cannot stress this enough. Inexperienced (precut or custom) installers rely on pricing to draw customers away from the more experienced / slightly higher priced competitors. This post again, is to inform rennlisters of the problems that we are seeing across the different parts of the U.S.
When we suspect that there is damage underneath, we always remove the film with the customer present as witness.....in case installers attempt to accuse us of damaging these vehicles. In the end, it really comes down to business ethics and experience. We really cannot stress this enough. Inexperienced (precut or custom) installers rely on pricing to draw customers away from the more experienced / slightly higher priced competitors. This post again, is to inform rennlisters of the problems that we are seeing across the different parts of the U.S.
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As an update, we will be in San Diego, Santa Barbara, OC, and LA between Aug 29-Sept 1. For those interested in our paint protection film services, please contact us at sales@premiermobilegroup.com or at 510-623-1308.
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My M3 had ugly and I mean UGLY stone chips that I could not stand. Touch up paint made it look tacky. Track events ruined the front end expecially coming out of corners onto a straight away, your behind a guy, "Tucked behind their Rear Wing" if you will, to get a good run on them and they drop a wheel..........stones, dust, dirt flying back at you.
My Arctic Silver GT3 has the 3M clear bra and it gives me some semblence of protection and it's hardly noticable on the car unless you really look for it.
My Arctic Silver GT3 has the 3M clear bra and it gives me some semblence of protection and it's hardly noticable on the car unless you really look for it.