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06-22-2006, 08:58 AM
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exhaust mod feedback
Does anyone have any experience with this type of exhaust mod?
Pfaff Porsche in Toronto performs this style of mod on 996 and 997s and claim much success with it.
Pfaff Porsche in Toronto performs this style of mod on 996 and 997s and claim much success with it.
06-22-2006, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Rolf Stumberger
It looks like they just bypassed the entire muffler.
How much do they charge ? and why buy it ? just remove the muffler and you have the same result .
How much do they charge ? and why buy it ? just remove the muffler and you have the same result .
06-22-2006, 05:00 PM
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I think they are a little outa whack on the pricing...
but here is what they have stated...
"We build our own sport mufflers. They are $1800.00 plus $234.00 for installation plus all applicable taxes. Our mufflers are modified factory mufflers, give you more sound, have less backpressure, thus increasing horsepower as would any other exhaust system. We install and supply our sport mufflers on an exchange basis, therefore keeping your old mufflers. It is exactly like stock. Essentially we add a bypass pipe from the inlet to the outlet. It sounds better than the PSE system, we have not had one unhappy customer since we started instaling them. We have the mufflers ready made."
but here is what they have stated...
"We build our own sport mufflers. They are $1800.00 plus $234.00 for installation plus all applicable taxes. Our mufflers are modified factory mufflers, give you more sound, have less backpressure, thus increasing horsepower as would any other exhaust system. We install and supply our sport mufflers on an exchange basis, therefore keeping your old mufflers. It is exactly like stock. Essentially we add a bypass pipe from the inlet to the outlet. It sounds better than the PSE system, we have not had one unhappy customer since we started instaling them. We have the mufflers ready made."
06-22-2006, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Gunner
I think they are a little outa whack on the pricing...
but here is what they have stated...
"We build our own sport mufflers. They are $1800.00 plus $234.00 for installation plus all applicable taxes. Our mufflers are modified factory mufflers, give you more sound, have less backpressure, thus increasing horsepower as would any other exhaust system. We install and supply our sport mufflers on an exchange basis, therefore keeping your old mufflers. It is exactly like stock. Essentially we add a bypass pipe from the inlet to the outlet. It sounds better than the PSE system, we have not had one unhappy customer since we started instaling them. We have the mufflers ready made."
but here is what they have stated...
"We build our own sport mufflers. They are $1800.00 plus $234.00 for installation plus all applicable taxes. Our mufflers are modified factory mufflers, give you more sound, have less backpressure, thus increasing horsepower as would any other exhaust system. We install and supply our sport mufflers on an exchange basis, therefore keeping your old mufflers. It is exactly like stock. Essentially we add a bypass pipe from the inlet to the outlet. It sounds better than the PSE system, we have not had one unhappy customer since we started instaling them. We have the mufflers ready made."
For $ 1800 they want to sell me someone elses old used mufflers and want mine to boot ?
And people say Porsche charges too much for accessories ?
For $1725 I get brand new factory PSE mufflers , complete with pneumatic bypass valves and all controls . AND I get to keep my old mufflers ( not that I want to keep them) Lol
Ask them if they are willing to buy mine when I get the PSE's installed .
Hey, I bet that's where the dealers sell our old ones to after they retrofit the PSE's ?( I'm going to take mine home and hang them on the garage wall as modern art )
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06-23-2006, 05:51 AM
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I think any decent muffler shop can do this. There was a thread while ago that showed the regular muffler vs PSE. Th only remarkable difference I saw was the bypass valve. The PSE looked very much like this. I am planning to visit a muffler guy that makes custom exhaust applications to see if he can do something like this for me. PSE does not make any claimed HP gains (cant remember if it was light or same weight) and I personally would do the full time noise trick and do not need a button so it is unlogical to spend money on PSE, I would just do custom muffler mod and replace the restricted headers. (that is until I decide to spend some cash on some light mufflers that sound good and make liitle more power)
Anybody gone this route?
Anybody gone this route?
06-23-2006, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Queram
I think any decent muffler shop can do this. There was a thread while ago that showed the regular muffler vs PSE. Th only remarkable difference I saw was the bypass valve. The PSE looked very much like this. I am planning to visit a muffler guy that makes custom exhaust applications to see if he can do something like this for me. PSE does not make any claimed HP gains (cant remember if it was light or same weight) and I personally would do the full time noise trick and do not need a button so it is unlogical to spend money on PSE, I would just do custom muffler mod and replace the restricted headers. (that is until I decide to spend some cash on some light mufflers that sound good and make liitle more power)
Anybody gone this route?
Anybody gone this route?
The only difference is that the PSE's have an additional pipe( with a valve in it ) connected from the muffler to the exhaust pipe . You can clearly see the connection location (upper left side of muffler ) in the picture above .
The exhaust will exit the muffler after going only thru two chambers instead of three , therefore having a louder exhaust note.
I still want the option of going into "stealth" mode occasionally though, so I will stay with the factory version including the controls.
06-23-2006, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Rolf Stumberger
A " little" outa whack on the pricing ?
For $ 1800 they want to sell me someone elses old used mufflers and want mine to boot ?
And people say Porsche charges too much for accessories ?
For $1725 I get brand new factory PSE mufflers , complete with pneumatic bypass valves and all controls . AND I get to keep my old mufflers ( not that I want to keep them) Lol
Ask them if they are willing to buy mine when I get the PSE's installed .
Hey, I bet that's where the dealers sell our old ones to after they retrofit the PSE's ?( I'm going to take mine home and hang them on the garage wall as modern art )
For $ 1800 they want to sell me someone elses old used mufflers and want mine to boot ?
And people say Porsche charges too much for accessories ?
For $1725 I get brand new factory PSE mufflers , complete with pneumatic bypass valves and all controls . AND I get to keep my old mufflers ( not that I want to keep them) Lol
Ask them if they are willing to buy mine when I get the PSE's installed .
Hey, I bet that's where the dealers sell our old ones to after they retrofit the PSE's ?( I'm going to take mine home and hang them on the garage wall as modern art )
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Originally Posted by Rolf Stumberger
I was told ( and confirmed ) that the PSE's are the exact same mufflers as the standards .
The only difference is that the PSE's have an additional pipe( with a valve in it ) connected from the muffler to the exhaust pipe . You can clearly see the connection location (upper left side of muffler ) in the picture above .
The exhaust will exit the muffler after going only thru two chambers instead of three , therefore having a louder exhaust note.
I still want the option of going into "stealth" mode occasionally though, so I will stay with the factory version including the controls.
The only difference is that the PSE's have an additional pipe( with a valve in it ) connected from the muffler to the exhaust pipe . You can clearly see the connection location (upper left side of muffler ) in the picture above .
The exhaust will exit the muffler after going only thru two chambers instead of three , therefore having a louder exhaust note.
I still want the option of going into "stealth" mode occasionally though, so I will stay with the factory version including the controls.
