Where are the deals?
#1
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Where are the deals?
I keep reading about the 20% depreciation hit a 997 takes as soon as it leaves the dealership lots but I'm not seeing that in the normal retail market. What I see are 2006 997 S models for sale for around 7 - 12% less than original MSRP. That's only a little better than the discount many claim to get when they buy their cars new.
Discounts on 2005 model cars aren't much better. Am I researching the wrong places?
Discounts on 2005 model cars aren't much better. Am I researching the wrong places?
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I suspect it is still a little early on taking big discounts on the 997. I would venture to say that the 996 market is rolling downward at an increased rate. Great,--if you like the 996.
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I'm in the market for a used 997, but at the prices they are still going i think i might get a quote for a new one.
I expect prices to lower slightly as soon as the new TT and GT3 are being delivered.
I expect prices to lower slightly as soon as the new TT and GT3 are being delivered.
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Many of the stores I have visited in Southern California should really not be called stores, rather, museums would be more appropriate. They make you feel as if they are doing you a favor on a 2006 997 (2007's in 2-3 months) at full window price, always telling you how "rare" the car is.
I guess that's not as bad as the BMW Museums for the M6. They are very proud of their "display" at 30K (read thirty thousand dollars) over window for the M6.
I guess that's not as bad as the BMW Museums for the M6. They are very proud of their "display" at 30K (read thirty thousand dollars) over window for the M6.
#7
Evidently, Porsche was caught off guard by the very strong demand for 997's. If that's the case, supply/demand would suggest prices holding up well, even on low mileage used cars.
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I looked and looked for a used 997
ended up buying new, no real depreciative value in buying used.
In fact I got a better deal on a new car through Chris on this board that I would have buying used. And I mean that. This is the first new car I have ever bought in my life.
In fact I got a better deal on a new car through Chris on this board that I would have buying used. And I mean that. This is the first new car I have ever bought in my life.
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The 20% depreciation is what they would knock you down from retail on a trade, not what they'd sell for retail. You should see 10-15% discount retail on a 2005, especially once the 07s start rolling in. Half that on a used 2006.
Check the Manheim auction prices for the true market clearing (wholesale) price on any car, then add what you think is a fair markup if you buy from a dealer. Or hire a broker to get you one from auction for a fee.
Check the Manheim auction prices for the true market clearing (wholesale) price on any car, then add what you think is a fair markup if you buy from a dealer. Or hire a broker to get you one from auction for a fee.
#11
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You don't see the depreciation until you try to deal it to a dealer. If you sell it outright, it's not so bad. Also, I agree with Riad, always buy your sports car during the winter and save $$$$$.
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you never know...check you private messages. just so happens i found a 2005 blk/blk carrera s with 2000 miles on it for sale @ >16% discount to msrp...closer to 20% if you figure what it cost to drive it off the lot. delivery? immediate. any questions? next problem then....
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I bought new, looked at as many 2006s as I could find in Northern Virginia. All were in the 10% or less range. Always exceptions, but I do not think 20% is the number right now.
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For what it's worth, I bought an '05 S Cab in California for 20% off MSRP a month ago. It has 7k miles. Sticker was $106k+ and I bought it for $87k CPO. It was exactly 1 year old.
Basic guidelines:
2006 - 5-15%, depending on where you buy it and how long it's been sitting
2005 - 15-20%, depending on where you buy it and how long it's been sitting
Manheim is a good measure but, due to low volume, you can't look everything up on there (ie. you won't find a Carrera S Cab, for example).
Good luck.
Basic guidelines:
2006 - 5-15%, depending on where you buy it and how long it's been sitting
2005 - 15-20%, depending on where you buy it and how long it's been sitting
Manheim is a good measure but, due to low volume, you can't look everything up on there (ie. you won't find a Carrera S Cab, for example).
Good luck.