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Old 05-21-2006, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by allegretto
Bravo man! I like that. Another approach would be to aim the onboard strobe at you rplate. Now if the copcam reads off the film plane this wont work. But I suspect they use a rather simple fixed aperture/speed setting and you'll overexpose the hell out of the film..

BTW, if they are sophisticated enough to read off their film plane, your approach wont work either. Well, maybe if it reads your stobe it will underexpose the plate. But it is much easier to fix underexposure than overexposure.
herman,

those things use film?
how can overexposure be fixed?
you a photobug?

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Originally Posted by icon
herman,

those things use film?
how can overexposure be fixed?
you a photobug?

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Used to be. Undersxposures can be lightened in the "darkroom" overexposures are lost due to the ceiling of emulsions. But I'm sure they are digital as you implied. In that case data is "never" lost of course. But there may be practical limits to recovery. Again, I would guess that even in digital the above applies. Perhaps as a practical matter the sensor (CCD whatever) could be bleached by sufficent overexposure, so that the data is not really captured.

As the Physicists here can tell us, there was recently a debate on whether or not even a Black Hole could destroy data. I believe that even Hawking thought it could, but in the end relented and agreed with the majority that even data drawn into a Black Hole could be preserved.

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It all depends on whose black ho we're talking about.....and what it is you're putting inside this black hole that you've oddly named "data."
Old 05-21-2006, 04:45 PM
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Perhaps the XPL option with Porsche was what you should have selected:

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Originally Posted by icon
digital overexposure leaves nothing to work with and can't be fixed.
again, a fine point. overexposure that overwhelms the sensor of the camera means the data was never obtained, therefore it cannot be "lost".

However, if it has been recorded, it cannot be lost unless it is completely overwritten.

So you are correct. That's why I think you can cheat the photo radar by the strobe Dan spoke of.
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Originally Posted by OCBen
It all depends on whose black ho we're talking about.....and what it is you're putting inside this black hole that you've oddly named "data."
Did my statement above not register with anything you were aware of, or are you just playing with me?

BTW, Black Ho's in LA have been the downfall of several guys.
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Originally Posted by allegretto
BTW, Black Ho's in LA have been the downfall of several guys.
True, however both Hugh Grant and Eddie Murphy recovered nicely.
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Originally Posted by wross996tt
Drive slower?
If that is the only solution, might as well sell the Porsche!
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Originally Posted by allegretto
Did my statement above not register with anything you were aware of, or are you just playing with me?
I don't dabble in theoretical astrophysics much - I find it rather boring and a waste of time, frankly. Arguments such as that often devolve into battles of opinions expressed by those who are supposedly in authority. And many try to win their arguments by the logical fallacy of appealing to authority, or more formally referred to as argumentum ad verecundiam. Such as by saying that if Stephen Hawking says it's so, then it must be so, without providing conclusive proof, which is very elusive in this realm.

My area of expertise is applied physics, the more mundane science that is used in designing spacecraft (currently) and launch systems (formerly - yes Jeff, rocket science ) - the stuff you can touch and feel and make do what you want it to do, reliably and predictably - that's what I deal with.

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True, however both Hugh Grant and Eddie Murphy recovered nicely.
Well, it depends if you consider losing Elizabeth Hurley nothing to cry over.

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Originally Posted by OCBen
It all depends on whose black ho we're talking about.....and what it is you're putting inside this black hole that you've oddly named "data."

I was a physics major. In '76, our department had to rename a conference on black holes to "Are Gravitationally Collapsed Configurations Excitable". No joke.
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[QUOTE=OCBen]I don't dabble in theoretical astrophysics much - I find it rather boring and a waste of time, frankly. Arguments such as that often devolve into battles of opinions expressed by those who are supposedly in authority. And many try to win their arguments by the logical fallacy of appealing to authority, or more formally referred to as argumentum ad verecundiam. Such as by saying that if Stephen Hawking says it's so, then it must be so, without providing conclusive proof, which is very elusive in this realm.

My area of expertise is applied physics, the more mundane science that is used in designing spacecraft (currently) and launch systems (formerly - yes Jeff, rocket science ) - the stuff you can touch and feel and make do what you want it to do, reliably and predictably - that's what I deal with.

Well, it depends if you consider losing Elizabeth Hurley nothing to cry over.
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