My X51 experience so far
04-26-2006, 03:16 AM
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My X51 experience so far
So I have almost 800 miles on my 997s with x51 and I wanted to share some of my initial thoughts on the car versus some other cars I have driven.
(This is all very subjective so please take that into consideration
)
VS a 997s [no pse]
The sound of the x51 is to die for vs stock exhaust. I do not feel a huge difference in the pull between the two cars, but their is something else about it that is hard to describe. I would put it down to REV-ability. The x51 just wants to rev and rev.
I would say I can feel a difference in the pull when driving back to back, but it is not a night and day thing.
VS a 997s WITH PSE.
I didnt get to drive the PSE car very hard, but the x51 sounds are pretty different from the 997s with X51.
VS my old 996 [which I just turned in yesterday and wow that was a sad moment]
So, I think the most dramatic difference is the handling and steering feedback. The car turns in quicker and is so much more stable feeling. This is with PASM off. With PASM on, it is just another huge step forward in stability.
There is almost no body roll either. It is crazy.
I got boinked and took the pzero's -- i shoulda insisted on getting pilot sports instead
the pzero's complain almost right away.
My 996 with PSE was louder than my x51, but the x51 is still not completely broken in. Jury is still out.
The brakes are also a huge improvement. I can not believe the gripping power of the 997 brakes. The calipers are so much bigger. I didnt realize that until they were next to each other.
There are a few things I miss about the 996. I miss the window controls being in the MIDDLE! I miss that the passenger side window is no longer auto up always. I miss the dial/button that controlled the intermittent wipers.
VS my friends 550 maranello
the maranello wins in the fact that it is a huge engine and the straight line grunt is really amazing.
But I would rather have the 911 because its more nimble and more fun to drive. The maranello is so much heavier and i didnt like the gated shifter very much. In fairness to the ferrari - i only drove it once so far and it was only for a couple of hours.
Thats it for now
Greg
ps. check out videos of my friends and I at driving events:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=dustymcbackwards
ps. PSE is so much better when you disconnect that plug in the back and the car is always loud Sounds SO much better I cant believe it.
(This is all very subjective so please take that into consideration
)VS a 997s [no pse]
The sound of the x51 is to die for vs stock exhaust. I do not feel a huge difference in the pull between the two cars, but their is something else about it that is hard to describe. I would put it down to REV-ability. The x51 just wants to rev and rev.
I would say I can feel a difference in the pull when driving back to back, but it is not a night and day thing.
VS a 997s WITH PSE.
I didnt get to drive the PSE car very hard, but the x51 sounds are pretty different from the 997s with X51.
VS my old 996 [which I just turned in yesterday and wow that was a sad moment]
So, I think the most dramatic difference is the handling and steering feedback. The car turns in quicker and is so much more stable feeling. This is with PASM off. With PASM on, it is just another huge step forward in stability.
There is almost no body roll either. It is crazy.
I got boinked and took the pzero's -- i shoulda insisted on getting pilot sports instead
the pzero's complain almost right away.My 996 with PSE was louder than my x51, but the x51 is still not completely broken in. Jury is still out.
The brakes are also a huge improvement. I can not believe the gripping power of the 997 brakes. The calipers are so much bigger. I didnt realize that until they were next to each other.
There are a few things I miss about the 996. I miss the window controls being in the MIDDLE! I miss that the passenger side window is no longer auto up always. I miss the dial/button that controlled the intermittent wipers
. VS my friends 550 maranello
the maranello wins in the fact that it is a huge engine and the straight line grunt is really amazing.
But I would rather have the 911 because its more nimble and more fun to drive. The maranello is so much heavier and i didnt like the gated shifter very much. In fairness to the ferrari - i only drove it once so far and it was only for a couple of hours.
Thats it for now
Greg
ps. check out videos of my friends and I at driving events:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=dustymcbackwards
ps. PSE is so much better when you disconnect that plug in the back and the car is always loud
Sounds SO much better I cant believe it.
04-26-2006, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by crispenigl
There are a few things I miss about the 996. I miss the window controls being in the MIDDLE! I miss that the passenger side window is no longer auto up always. I miss the dial/button that controlled the intermittent wipers
. Congrats on the car - it sounds awesome. Drive it in good health! Thanks for the insights.
-don
04-26-2006, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by crispenigl
The sound of the x51 is to die for vs stock exhaust. I do not feel a huge difference in the pull between the two cars, but their is something else about it that is hard to describe. I would put it down to REV-ability. The x51 just wants to rev and rev.
I would say I can feel a difference in the pull when driving back to back, but it is not a night and day thing.
a little disappointed to hear you can't feel much of a difference
This is with PASM off. With PASM on, it is just another huge step forward in stability.
you can't disable pasm!
I miss the window controls being in the MIDDLE!
me too! big time! i hate the door controls!
VS my friends 550 maranello
the maranello wins in the fact that it is a huge engine and the straight line grunt is really amazing.
But I would rather have the 911 because its more nimble and more fun to drive.
what about a road race? straight line speed doenst make a car.
got to have both the speed and handling!
I would say I can feel a difference in the pull when driving back to back, but it is not a night and day thing.
a little disappointed to hear you can't feel much of a difference
This is with PASM off. With PASM on, it is just another huge step forward in stability.
you can't disable pasm!
I miss the window controls being in the MIDDLE!
me too! big time! i hate the door controls!
VS my friends 550 maranello
the maranello wins in the fact that it is a huge engine and the straight line grunt is really amazing.
But I would rather have the 911 because its more nimble and more fun to drive.
what about a road race? straight line speed doenst make a car.
got to have both the speed and handling!
thanks for the review!
04-26-2006, 08:46 PM
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Another quick comment. The sport mode doesnt seem to have that much affect on the x51 car. My friends 997s, you can feel it, but not so much for x51.. sorta odd and i might skip the wart if I had to do it over again.
04-26-2006, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by icon
maybe after break-in you will start to feel more of a difference in the x51?
thanks for the review!
thanks for the review!
I think the 997s would win a race because of the maranello's weight penalties.
I think I will re-compare the x51 vs the 997s after i put 2k miles on her.
04-26-2006, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by crispenigl
Another quick comment. The sport mode doesnt seem to have that much affect on the x51 car. My friends 997s, you can feel it, but not so much for x51.. sorta odd and i might skip the wart if I had to do it over again.
