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My car is back in for the same error message it was getting last fall before putting it away for the winter.
Then, the dealer replaced a "convenience module" with one from an 06 car, and the message cleared.
Now, iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit's baaaaaack...... What are the odds of two modules failing on one car???? Colour me sceptical!
Has anyone experienced this, and what was the cure????
Then, the dealer replaced a "convenience module" with one from an 06 car, and the message cleared.
Now, iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit's baaaaaack...... What are the odds of two modules failing on one car???? Colour me sceptical!
Has anyone experienced this, and what was the cure????
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Originally Posted by 1Gunner
My car is back in for the same error message it was getting last fall before putting it away for the winter.
Then, the dealer replaced a "convenience module" with one from an 06 car, and the message cleared.
Now, iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit's baaaaaack...... What are the odds of two modules failing on one car???? Colour me sceptical!
Has anyone experienced this, and what was the cure????
Then, the dealer replaced a "convenience module" with one from an 06 car, and the message cleared.
Now, iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit's baaaaaack...... What are the odds of two modules failing on one car???? Colour me sceptical!
Has anyone experienced this, and what was the cure????
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Seriously, sorry to hear about the problem. I hope they get it resolved completely and permanently this time.
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Gotta change your mindset. The car is a computer, it's all connected and it has bugs and glitches. You change a module and it seems solved, everything seems fine, and then a while later it comes back, like a system crash in your PC.
The moment of realization came to me after two tries at the dealer service to fix my PCM/CD/NAV the thing started to crash whenever I used the sunroof button!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eventually they changed modules and then the entire PCM. Hasn't happened since.
I asked the qualified and reputable svc guys when I picked up the car, "Will I have this problem again?" They both looked at me and said, with an expression of mild bewilderment, "we don't know." Scary huh?
The moment of realization came to me after two tries at the dealer service to fix my PCM/CD/NAV the thing started to crash whenever I used the sunroof button!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eventually they changed modules and then the entire PCM. Hasn't happened since.
I asked the qualified and reputable svc guys when I picked up the car, "Will I have this problem again?" They both looked at me and said, with an expression of mild bewilderment, "we don't know." Scary huh?
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Lets take a bit of pressure off the techs though, imagine you get mild heart surgery after a heart pulpatation and the doctor says your o.k to go now and you ask, so will I be alright now. His experience tells him probably but with all the variables he can't be 100% sure so he says Maybe if you do this and this. He is about as sure as the techs are of your health. He didn't build you just like the techs didn't build your car but these days you give a 100% answer and everyone says 'but you told me that it was fixed' even when its another fault giving you a similar light on the dash.
Word of wisdom- Keep faith in the product, the computer era is almost understandable.
Word of wisdom- Keep faith in the product, the computer era is almost understandable.
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I had the system fault message for the second time. It happened again when I was detailing my car and rubbing the left head light. The servo motor went off again inside the front hood. I brought it in and they removed the system fault with their computer software and are calling PCNA personally on Monday to see if there is an update or upgrade because they have had other cutomers with the same problem. They did not replace the servo motor because the tech felt this wouldn't solve the problem long term. He hopes that Porsche is recognizing that this is an electrical gremling that needs to be addressed. Hopefully there is a warranty replacement of some type that will finally resolve this issue. If you get this error and you know what it is you can drive the car without issue, but do contact your dealer as soon as possible. I will report back after the rep contacts me this week.
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Originally Posted by DJ23
I had the system fault message for the second time. It happened again when I was detailing my car and rubbing the left head light. The servo motor went off again inside the front hood. I brought it in and they removed the system fault with their computer software and are calling PCNA personally on Monday to see if there is an update or upgrade because they have had other cutomers with the same problem. They did not replace the servo motor because the tech felt this wouldn't solve the problem long term. He hopes that Porsche is recognizing that this is an electrical gremling that needs to be addressed. Hopefully there is a warranty replacement of some type that will finally resolve this issue. If you get this error and you know what it is you can drive the car without issue, but do contact your dealer as soon as possible. I will report back after the rep contacts me this week.
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1/ No front fog lights
2/ One rear fog light (drivers side)
3/ No trunk light
4/ Nav map has "night" background colour, but switches to daytime colour when the turn signal is activated... but reverts back to night colour 3-5 seconds after turn signal ends.
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Originally Posted by 1Gunner
My system fault is accompanied by the following gremlins:
1/ No front fog lights
2/ One rear fog light (drivers side)
3/ No trunk light
4/ Nav map has "night" background colour, but switches to daytime colour when the turn signal is activated... but reverts back to night colour 3-5 seconds after turn signal ends.
gota911 good eye!! LOL
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1/ No front fog lights
2/ One rear fog light (drivers side)
3/ No trunk light
4/ Nav map has "night" background colour, but switches to daytime colour when the turn signal is activated... but reverts back to night colour 3-5 seconds after turn signal ends.
gota911 good eye!! LOL
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BTW, I like the euphamistic warning: "Visit Workshop."
Like call them up monday at 8 AM from a crummy hotel you've been stranded at somewhere and say, "I'd like to VISIT the workshop." yeahhhhhh riiiiight.
Should be something like,
"Sorry, car broken, get service now"
would be more honest. LOL.
Like call them up monday at 8 AM from a crummy hotel you've been stranded at somewhere and say, "I'd like to VISIT the workshop." yeahhhhhh riiiiight.
Should be something like,
"Sorry, car broken, get service now"
would be more honest. LOL.
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Originally Posted by MMD
BTW, I like the euphamistic warning: "Visit Workshop."
Like call them up monday at 8 AM from a crummy hotel you've been stranded at somewhere and say, "I'd like to VISIT the workshop." yeahhhhhh riiiiight.
Should be something like,
"Sorry, car broken, get service now"
would be more honest. LOL.![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Like call them up monday at 8 AM from a crummy hotel you've been stranded at somewhere and say, "I'd like to VISIT the workshop." yeahhhhhh riiiiight.
Should be something like,
"Sorry, car broken, get service now"
would be more honest. LOL.
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I just had the same propbelm and my Porsche tech said 99.9% of the time, the front "control module" needs to be replaced. Its the little box that tells the computer the bonnet is closed (or open). Warranty fix and the dealer should have them in stock as this is a very common problem.
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