JARO,

I offer a different option. Get a 993 to complement the Cayenne. I sold my Cayenne S and bought a 993 C2. I drove several 997S's thinking I would get one. While the 997 is technically superior and faster, I felt a connection to the aircooled 993 that transcended all the technical improvements of the later model. Also 40% less than your used 997.

Just a thought.

 

hmmm...I should look into this....you are not the first guy suggesting this...thanks! will let you know what I did....BTW, read a great British car magazine...Caymen is getting some great press. Hands down better then base 997...

 

One dealer contacted me about an '05 997 with the following options:
sport chrono
Nav
Litronic
dual power seats
heated seats
painted crest wheel centers
Bose
7000miles
No CPO
2.5 years warranty
Asking $69,000 USD
What would be a fair price to pay for this car?

 

i dunno, if you get a 997 C2 (non-S) get the badge delete option
I just don't understand it personally.
I would go for the C4S - this was the lusted after driver's car, turbo widebody, brakes, n/a engine -
between a lightly option 997 C2 and a fully loaded 996 C4S - Personally I'd take the 996
Drive both however - decide if YOU feel the improvements to chassis is worth it, because otherwise they're the same engine, tranny, etc...

 

i'm after 997 C2S now...but will get into a C2 if price right

 

Without the nav and fewer miles, a Dealer near me sold a 997 for $64K. THe car was languishing on his lot when he had it listed for $72K, so he lowered its price incrementally until it sold quickly at $64K.

 

I wanted a C2S but couldn't see enough diference to spend $15k more. I love my 2005 997 C2 with 14,500 miles. It has plenty of power and trumps my 996 by far. At $59k, I think you've found a good deal. Remember that the S is only .2 seconds faster in 0-62 and does 182 instead of 177. Will you ever go that fast? I did get PASM, 19" wheels, full leather seats and few other options but I'm very happy with my choice. After the 997's have been around for a while, then I may trade up to a used S. Good luck and PCA is a good idea even if you don't attend their meetings. Tha Panorama magazine is worth the price of membership. I've been a member since 1974.

 

I think the new Caymen is a great car but I don't see it beating the 997 base car "hands down". It has a slight handling advantange with its mid engine and is a beautiful car but I'd still prefer the 911 as a road car. It has more power, more room for people and luggage and is a better "real world" car, in my oppinion. If you don't need the extra room for travel, the Caymen may be the better buy at $10k less. It all comes down to personal preference.

 

I want to say I am not good at neg. at the dealers, are there any guidelines or formula that remain true on pricing for a Porsche, new or used. I know there are some people that know my pain, and I am very impresses with this thread and the prices people are getting.

I am a PCA member and have an 02 C4Cab, (its for sale) I want a used 05 or 06 997S but to get an idea on what cars are being priced at new, I have been looking at 06 997S, from 79K to 101K in the Midwest Chicago Milwaukee area, the invoice plus 5 is what I offered one dealer on a 100K car. I figure I would insult them first (if possible) and work my way up. They have repeatedly stuck to 1-2k below MSRP which I think is very high. I am mystified that my skills are that bad with car dealers. Any ideas as how to neg on a fair price on new cars. The same advice should hold true for used, right?

 

the 59k deal actually became 64k deal for me...so still on the market. If you are seeing pre-driven (or new 997's out there for low 60's pls let me know...

 

bahaha
I feel bad for the car dealer I next buy from, because that salesman, GM, and whoever else comes out will be put through the ringer...
Let's just say, I've made a scene at the return desk at best buy, no problem.