did for a little but 911 is a 911....there is no substitute! so got to have one...

 

I agree. Saw a Cayman S yesterday on the street...nice but no 911.

 

If you are going to own it for a long time (5+ years?) I would stretch and get the very best. If it's for 3 years or less, get what you can afford (as Jaro said a 911 is a 911) and then get what you want three years from now. imho

 

Jaro,

At 59K that is a great buy, GO FOR IT!!!!!!!

Best Wishes

 

yeah I think so as well but on the other hand part of me tells me a CS is much better and I'm basically getting a stripped down car...

 

I agree. Saw a Cayman S yesterday on the street...nice but no 911.
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waved to a 997s and a 996GT3 on the hwy today, cute, but no cayman....
LOL, just messing with you.

i actually prefer 997 over 996's ( i have had six 996's). i also prefer 997 over 997s just so i can avoid PASM.

 

I would absolutely take the 997 over a 04 996 C4S, especially at a lower price!

I owned a 03 996 C4S and recently acquired a 997, there are lots of improvements to the platform. 59k sounds like a nice deal on the 997 also.

 

I bought a 997 C2 (non-S) and am pleased as punch. Sure, the S is a little more powerful, but the C2 is awesome. Realistically, the extra power doesn't help much in the corners, the non-S has plenty.

I also like the std. suspension instead of the PSM. The sport mode was too stiff on the street for me. That means normal mode which is a little cushier than the std. suspension. I also aspire to Bilsteins one day and don't want PSM in the way.

I bought mine with 5K, CPO, 19" lobster forks, adaptive sport seats, heated seats for $61K in August. Warantee expires in 2010! I have already driven it more than the previous owner.

Would I like an S...sure. Turbo...sure. GT3, 2...love em. The major fun is the 911, upgrades are gravy.

 

I like the car buying experience and think I'm pretty good at it. Here's some of what I learned buying the 997.

Working on the phone, I spoke with sales managers only. Some dealers won't deal, many will. I could get $4K off in-stock C2 or C2S last summer in the NY metro area.

Used cars I could also get $4K off, sometimes $4,500. Dealers can only certify fully stock cars that will pass the checks. If they won't certify it, I didn't want it. Certification is $2K. If you don't want it certified, I could get $6K off a used car advertised as certifed.

Porsche buyers rarely buy from anyone but dealers, so dealers offer little for trade-ins. The best deals were from individuals. I'm still kicking myself for not buying one car I saw last summer. It was a 2005 C2S, brownish grey color (not seal, $3K option), sport chrono, 700 miles, Bose, heated seats, lobster forks for $65K. I didn't trust the guy and couldn't pull up the VIN on-line, so passed. It was at a local dealer the next week for $78K.

 

sounds like a 90k plus car...at 65k, thats a steal, a full 10k less than the dealers are selling it for....at 65k, you are insultated from much depreciation for a few years.....

 

oh my God! 65k for a C2S 997! That is sick! If anyone sees a deal like this PM me and I'm buying beer!!!

 

best i have seen is $87,500 for a 997 s cab 2005 with 5k miles - loaded...anyone see better than that?

 

76k...not sure about equipment but it is on porscheusa.com..non cab...

 

Just drove a 997 cab today ( I'm more interested in the coupe though). i had driven a 997s coupe in the fall already, and honestly the regular 997 is no slouch! Great car, very fast and comfortable. Played with the sport chrono a bit too. I liked how the sport mode remaps the throttle response, but I'm not crazy about the way that dash hump is integrated or rather not integrated into the IP. I'm sure I would learn to live with it.

 

no, the regular 997 is not a slouch...excuse the double negative....in fact, most of the todays new sports cars are very fast by historical standards andtoo fast for most of the roads around the world...with that said, the CS is just that much faster, better sounding and more responsive, and thats thewhole point of buying a porsche anyway...why comprimise if you are already spend a lot of money???