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Old 03-06-2005, 08:55 AM
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Yikes "pole position", take it easy. It's not that we we achieve starvation but that we could achieve it. Porsche itself attempted to address the "problem" in 2002 when it went from the 3.4 to the 3.6 and "upgraded the "wet sump system". The best evidence, admittedly not conclusive, might be the demand, prices, and durability of 993's in comparison to 996's. This from an owner of two 993's, a 996 (gone) and a 997.
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Old 03-06-2005, 12:28 PM
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The exchange rate will definitely boost the prices on all foreigh cars from Europe as the dollar continues to take a beating....manufacturers have to adjust their prices accordingly and US dealers whose dollar isn't going as far with their purchases.....I import haircolor from Germany and I have had to increase prices twice now due to higher Cost of Goods to cover my margins and dealers margins....
Old 03-06-2005, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by pole position
Show me conclusive evidence with data etc about your alleged wet sump inferiority on a street driven car, not I heard , read or other BS , documentation not hearsay, and please not the " I track the car argument " because the majority of all posters on this board and that for sure includes you will never ever explore the absolute cornering limit of a 996/997 to produce oli starvation problems even driven on slicks.
I guess you didn't read the lengthy thread about Sean in San Diego whose warranty coverage was denied as a result of his autocrossing. The PCNA rep himself told Sean these problems can and do result from the fake dry sump. Incidentally, before getting the CGT, I drove my 996 at or near the limit quite often and nearly always throttle danced between post limit understeer and post limit oversteer (as I do in the CGT) to keep the car right at the edge. While I didn't have any oil starvation issues in 4 years with the supercharged and tautly suspensioned 996 with turbo/GT3 brakes, apparently I was lucky - like I was in not having an RMS failure like several of my friends have had multiple times.
Old 03-06-2005, 12:37 PM
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If WW wants to raise the price and cut supply to maintain exclusivity, ala Ferrari, then put a decent f*cken engine in the car!
I have seen my oil pressure drop from 5 bar to 3 bar and back up to 5 running street tires at TWS (turn 1 clockwise configuration) at 5000 rpm. The same thing occurs with my R compounds and this is a long right hander, not the left handers where the problem reportedly occurs (according to PMNA). That's conclusive enough evidience for me. That and the fact that PMNA sells an oiling upgrade for the 996.
Old 03-06-2005, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ 996
That and the fact that PMNA sells an oiling upgrade for the 996.
which pretty much immediately voids the warranty :-( the boxsters and 996/997 911s just aren't what we think they are when it comes to off the street performance.
Old 03-06-2005, 11:10 PM
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why is it that all these magazine tests where these P-cars are tracked for articles, or in head to head "shootouts" against other cars - none of the magazines ever mention that the oil pressure drops during the test? I am not saying this proves anything, I was just wondering.
Old 03-06-2005, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by nyca
none of the magazines ever mention that the oil pressure drops during the test? I am not saying this proves anything, I was just wondering.
why would magazine performance measurers pay any attention whatsoever to oil pressure?
Old 03-07-2005, 12:15 AM
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its simply an observation they make while driving the car. low oil pressure is certainly something to note.
Old 03-07-2005, 06:40 PM
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Pole Position; Also forgot to mention that the dry sump motor and its tranny are rebuildable and serviceable. Not true for our non gt 996's and 997's.
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Originally Posted by scycle2020
i havent seen any heavily discounted 997s...in mid atlantic, there is a 6month wait at msrp..i have called around the country and a few mid west dealers can find me a heavily optioned s for a few thousand off list..no bargins out there yet
guess you not seen this thread ("has anyone bought a 997s at below msrp?") in this very forum?
Old 03-25-2005, 05:29 AM
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