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Old 01-18-2005, 08:06 AM
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removed the B&M shift kit I installed in my 997 and replaced it with the OEM "Sport" shifter. I did not like the second to third shift...Third seemed like it was to the right of where you want it.

While the OEM sport shifter can be described as "notchy" by some people, I like it and the second to third shift is perfect.

Additionally, the OEM unit comes ready to drop in allowing you to preserve your original OEM shifter box intact. The B&M installation requires you to modify your OEM shifter box (PIA) making a reversal much more difficult should you decide you don't like the setup.
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Old 01-18-2005, 09:44 AM
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There is something to be said for OEM vs aftermarket
Old 01-18-2005, 10:56 AM
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I actually did the same thing on my 996 C4S. I had originally put in the BM, liked it alot. But, I was very concerned about warranty issues with the tranny(non service item=8k), when an oem unit dropped in my lap I jumped at putting it in, shifts well, however, the BM did feel a little sharper while shifting.
Old 01-18-2005, 11:14 AM
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FYI - The OEM is made by B&M. They are exactly the same, except for the color and the logo.
Old 01-18-2005, 01:38 PM
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Does B&M actually make them both? B&M is a Chatsworth, CA drag race specialty operation. Does Porsche outsource such a primary assembly to a California company? Sounds improbable. Porsche specializes in transmissions and shifters.

You say the B&M and OEM shifters are exactly the same. So why do these two chaps feel such a difference in the shifters? One becomes very accutely sensitive to the way a shifter feels and I would believe they know what they are saying.

Where did you come by your info? Thanks.

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FYI - The OEM is made by B&M. They are exactly the same, except for the color and the logo.
Old 01-18-2005, 01:53 PM
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This has been discussed at length over at Renntech.org. They are exactly the same - except for the price Yes, B&M, although local to CA, distributes their products worldwide. And they do make the SSK for Porsche.
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They are exactly the same, I even posted side by side pics on another forum (6speed). My understanding is that Porsche does outsource alot of stuff, including the Short throw shifter. The only difference in the two is that Porsche uses the plastic bushings and BM the metal ones, that explains the feel issue.
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Do both kits come with installation instructions? How difficult is it to install this kit? Are any adjustments to shift linkage required?
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I'm not in agreement on the "exactly the same" position...Please see my photos. That might have been the case on the 996 but not so on the 997...I have personally installed both of them.
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The B&M came with instructions...For a 996, which is a little different as far as the removal of interior parts, shift **** (PIA) etc... Not a big deal.

The OEM did not come with instructions...

I would be happy to help any way I can...
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You may be right, I've only dealt with the 996 version. The 997 may be different, have to see 'em side by side myself.
As far as adjustments are concerned, do it the oem method, just pop on/off at the shift tower, don't mess with the cables at all. Very easy DIY job.
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Skytop: I've been told the 997 tranny is outsourced to Japan. Can anyone confirm?
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Originally Posted by pedsurg
Skytop: I've been told the 997 tranny is outsourced to Japan. Can anyone confirm?
Thanks
Jack
Correct the Transmissions are Mfg in Japan by Aisin for the Cayenne and the new 997 & 987 (manuals)
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I'm not trying to push a point...I hope this helps clear things up. I did the installations and took the pictures...It's first hand info.
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Originally Posted by VB997
I'm not trying to push a point...I hope this helps clear things up. I did the installations and took the pictures...It's first hand info.
Yeah, they sure looked different to ME but who am I ?


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