Hey all - long story short I have a 992.1 C2S PDK. Have two little kids too and work from home so most of my driving is back roads to drop kids at school or to groceries. Occasional road trip with wife. Love the car and it does everything well but I feel like it’s just missing something. I turo’d a 981S Boxster for some fun driving in Northern California - loved the connectedness, felt the power was enough to wring out on the street, and most of all I loved the sound - Turbo cars will never sound this good. Didn’t love the super long gearing
I am thinking of potentially sourcing a 997.2 S manual and taking funds from sale of 992 to invest in creature comforts and modernize 997.2: CarPlay, updated steering wheel, lightweight wheels, basic power mods without ruining car, upgraded brakes. and potentially some suspension work.
I absolutely need back seats so Boxster, gt3 etc are out. I have wayB pico seats in my 992 which I hear work in 997
any thoughts on this? Will I make a big mistake?
I am thinking of potentially sourcing a 997.2 S manual and taking funds from sale of 992 to invest in creature comforts and modernize 997.2: CarPlay, updated steering wheel, lightweight wheels, basic power mods without ruining car, upgraded brakes. and potentially some suspension work.
I absolutely need back seats so Boxster, gt3 etc are out. I have wayB pico seats in my 992 which I hear work in 997
any thoughts on this? Will I make a big mistake?
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thanks, but how prevalent is this really for 997.2 cars? Of course I’d go through a comprehensive PPI and would look to buy an example with 30-40k miles and I’d add maybe 5k per year at most. Originally Posted by silver_tt
The big advantage of the 992 is that it is effectively immune to bore scoring.
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Less prevalent than M9x but it does happen. We are seeing more of them score and expect to see even more in the future with the passage of time as these engines age. I am not really arguing for or against your decision. Only saying it's one key difference to understand as you make your decision.
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I think another thing to consider would be to get a 997.1 and all the money you would still have in your pocket could go to a rebuild if one was ever needed. My 2007 is hovering around 150k with no signs of rebuild yet (at least no smoke, oil burn, and Blackstones look good).
But if you are looking at the .2 for styling cues and engine difference I get that too. The .2s are mega nice but also have lower build numbers and will come at a premium cost. Arguably you get more bang for your buck on the .1.
Either way, I think after the sale of the 992 you should have a good amount leftover to care for a 997 easily. You can get a very well sorted one anywhere from the mid 50s to mid 70s (997.1 that is).
But if you are looking at the .2 for styling cues and engine difference I get that too. The .2s are mega nice but also have lower build numbers and will come at a premium cost. Arguably you get more bang for your buck on the .1.
Either way, I think after the sale of the 992 you should have a good amount leftover to care for a 997 easily. You can get a very well sorted one anywhere from the mid 50s to mid 70s (997.1 that is).
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it’s not very prevalent and scoring doesn’t actually matter unless engine is knocking. Can have mild or moderate scoring for a long time with no issues.Originally Posted by 992depo
thanks, but how prevalent is this really for 997.2 cars? Of course I’d go through a comprehensive PPI and would look to buy an example with 30-40k miles and I’d add maybe 5k per year at most.
As a new owner of a 997.2 4S who is biased and clearly still in the honeymoon phase, I'd say absolutely go for it.
I can’t speak to the kid-hauling abilities of the 997 vs. 992, but for the driving aspect: I did have the chance to take a 2-day trip in a 992.1 S PDK. My first experience driving a newer 911 and I was blown away by its capabilities. It's undoubtedly a beautiful product and, as a daily, no question I’d enjoy it. But as a ‘fun car,’ I realized I wanted more engagement; a manual, something a smidge smaller, and with a bit less power. Certainly and thus far, my 997 has more than delivered on those criteria. Having said that, and depending on your budget, did you consider an MT 992 S or T? (though understood you maybe wanted to move away from turbocharging.)
I can’t speak to the kid-hauling abilities of the 997 vs. 992, but for the driving aspect: I did have the chance to take a 2-day trip in a 992.1 S PDK. My first experience driving a newer 911 and I was blown away by its capabilities. It's undoubtedly a beautiful product and, as a daily, no question I’d enjoy it. But as a ‘fun car,’ I realized I wanted more engagement; a manual, something a smidge smaller, and with a bit less power. Certainly and thus far, my 997 has more than delivered on those criteria. Having said that, and depending on your budget, did you consider an MT 992 S or T? (though understood you maybe wanted to move away from turbocharging.)
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I wouldnt kick a 992 out of bed but the 997 is a more fun car to drive. Youll have a pile cash left over and can get a great one. Go for it
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Amazing the prices of nice lower mileage 991's.
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I can’t speak to the kid-hauling abilities of the 997 vs. 992, but for the driving aspect: I did have the chance to take a 2-day trip in a 992.1 S PDK. My first experience driving a newer 911 and I was blown away by its capabilities. It's undoubtedly a beautiful product and, as a daily, no question I’d enjoy it. But as a ‘fun car,’ I realized I wanted more engagement; a manual, something a smidge smaller, and with a bit less power. Certainly and thus far, my 997 has more than delivered on those criteria. Having said that, and depending on your budget, did you consider an MT 992 S or T? (though understood you maybe wanted to move away from turbocharging.)
A low mileage manual 992.2 T would be sweet - The $115-$120K price stings a bit. But I would consider it an investment for sure.Originally Posted by vprgrn
As a new owner of a 997.2 4S who is biased and clearly still in the honeymoon phase, I'd say absolutely go for it.I can’t speak to the kid-hauling abilities of the 997 vs. 992, but for the driving aspect: I did have the chance to take a 2-day trip in a 992.1 S PDK. My first experience driving a newer 911 and I was blown away by its capabilities. It's undoubtedly a beautiful product and, as a daily, no question I’d enjoy it. But as a ‘fun car,’ I realized I wanted more engagement; a manual, something a smidge smaller, and with a bit less power. Certainly and thus far, my 997 has more than delivered on those criteria. Having said that, and depending on your budget, did you consider an MT 992 S or T? (though understood you maybe wanted to move away from turbocharging.)
Thanks all, super helpful. Regarding .1 vs .2, I prefer styling of .2, it’s a touch more modern, and bore scoring less of a concern.
I have thought long and hard about 992 S manual, GTS manual, and even T manual. Ultimately I want something non-turbo charged and frankly something I can really enjoy on the street. And I also want something that I will have for a long time - I’ve had 992 for 3 years and while it’s great it’s not something I see myself keeping forever.
Dollars back in my pocket to do a “build” on a 997.2 how I’d like makes it a compelling value prop and I suspect .2 manual S will hold value or go up as that analog type of 911 no longer exists.
I have thought long and hard about 992 S manual, GTS manual, and even T manual. Ultimately I want something non-turbo charged and frankly something I can really enjoy on the street. And I also want something that I will have for a long time - I’ve had 992 for 3 years and while it’s great it’s not something I see myself keeping forever.
Dollars back in my pocket to do a “build” on a 997.2 how I’d like makes it a compelling value prop and I suspect .2 manual S will hold value or go up as that analog type of 911 no longer exists.
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I have thought long and hard about 992 S manual, GTS manual, and even T manual. Ultimately I want something non-turbo charged and frankly something I can really enjoy on the street. And I also want something that I will have for a long time - I’ve had 992 for 3 years and while it’s great it’s not something I see myself keeping forever.
Dollars back in my pocket to do a “build” on a 997.2 how I’d like makes it a compelling value prop and I suspect .2 manual S will hold value or go up as that analog type of 911 no longer exists.
Whats the color, mileage on your 992? It's a PDK correct? Does it have the dark black glass optional sunroof?Originally Posted by 992depo
Thanks all, super helpful. Regarding .1 vs .2, I prefer styling of .2, it’s a touch more modern, and bore scoring less of a concern.I have thought long and hard about 992 S manual, GTS manual, and even T manual. Ultimately I want something non-turbo charged and frankly something I can really enjoy on the street. And I also want something that I will have for a long time - I’ve had 992 for 3 years and while it’s great it’s not something I see myself keeping forever.
Dollars back in my pocket to do a “build” on a 997.2 how I’d like makes it a compelling value prop and I suspect .2 manual S will hold value or go up as that analog type of 911 no longer exists.
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gentian blue about 20k miles. Pdk 2020 model year. Yes black glass optional sunroof Originally Posted by groovzilla
Whats the color, mileage on your 992? It's a PDK correct? Does it have the dark black glass optional sunroof?
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Groov ... ppf wrap the sunroof?Originally Posted by 992depo
gentian blue about 20k miles. Pdk 2020 model year. Yes black glass optional sunroof
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I have thought long and hard about 992 S manual, GTS manual, and even T manual. Ultimately I want something non-turbo charged and frankly something I can really enjoy on the street. And I also want something that I will have for a long time - I�ve had 992 for 3 years and while it�s great it�s not something I see myself keeping forever.
Dollars back in my pocket to do a �build� on a 997.2 how I�d like makes it a compelling value prop and I suspect .2 manual S will hold value or go up as that analog type of 911 no longer exists.
Eleven year owner of a 997.1 C4 Cab MT, and just bought a 2022 992.1 C2S MT. If staying with the 997 platform, I would try for a 997 C2S MT of the .2 variety (385 hp). That would be in the $80K range though, and I personally think the 991.1. or better (.2 for no bore scoring) would be a great find if in this price range already.Originally Posted by 992depo
Thanks all, super helpful. Regarding .1 vs .2, I prefer styling of .2, it�s a touch more modern, and bore scoring less of a concern.I have thought long and hard about 992 S manual, GTS manual, and even T manual. Ultimately I want something non-turbo charged and frankly something I can really enjoy on the street. And I also want something that I will have for a long time - I�ve had 992 for 3 years and while it�s great it�s not something I see myself keeping forever.
Dollars back in my pocket to do a �build� on a 997.2 how I�d like makes it a compelling value prop and I suspect .2 manual S will hold value or go up as that analog type of 911 no longer exists.
We had a 2024 992.1 C2 Cab GTS PDK for about 8 days last year and I know what you mean about a bit of an isolated high power environment. So we went MT in our 2022.
I would really look at the 991.2s, like a C2S MT. Or a 997.2 C2S MT.


