First 997 repli-kit: 993 or 996?
Professor of Pending Projects
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 9,898
Likes: 35
From: Ocala, FL
Originally Posted by DonneyJ
One things for sure VW beetle sales are set to soar
DonnyJ
DonnyJ
Headlight Molding
So now Porsche puts out a car with round (ok, oval) headlights and people complain... To each their own... I like the looks of the new car and to me I do not see it looking like a VW
Addict
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 2,761
Likes: 1
From: California
Originally Posted by Lomotpk
It of course is inevitable that the bolt-on industry will make a kit for older cars to looks like 997's.
The question is will 993's or 996's be the best starting point?
Really, I'm not in the market for, nor advocating this, but pondering an inevitability.
Thoughts?
The question is will 993's or 996's be the best starting point?
Really, I'm not in the market for, nor advocating this, but pondering an inevitability.
Thoughts?
However, I don't think this will stop many from updating older 911's to look like the 997.
Addict
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,426
Likes: 0
From: Apex, NC
MS-Shaw can set u up with with a 911 to 996 conversion and then you can convert that into a 997 - - humm let's see you can go from 1965 to 2005 in 40 thousand easy steps
"996 GT-2000;
Convert your 911 to 996 GT-3R race car; Kit includes Roof, Doors, Hood, Front bumper, Fenders, Rocker Panels, Rear quarter panels and Wing; Adaptor kit for converting the body is included; Requires a full Nascar style cage.
Price is only $6900.00 "
http://www.mashaw.com/html/product_info.html
the 996 would make the logical starting point for a conversion since the hard points (where the fenders and other major componets bolt on) are the same basically. Don't get me wrong there are a lot of differences but i bet you could back date a 997 to a 996 interior and so forth. Time will tell
"996 GT-2000;
Convert your 911 to 996 GT-3R race car; Kit includes Roof, Doors, Hood, Front bumper, Fenders, Rocker Panels, Rear quarter panels and Wing; Adaptor kit for converting the body is included; Requires a full Nascar style cage.
Price is only $6900.00 "
http://www.mashaw.com/html/product_info.html
the 996 would make the logical starting point for a conversion since the hard points (where the fenders and other major componets bolt on) are the same basically. Don't get me wrong there are a lot of differences but i bet you could back date a 997 to a 996 interior and so forth. Time will tell
Instructor
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 164
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Wachuko
I do not get it Donney... weren't you looking for light covers to make them look like round headlights instead?
Headlight Molding
So now Porsche puts out a car with round (ok, oval) headlights and people complain... To each their own... I like the looks of the new car and to me I do not see it looking like a VW
Headlight Molding
So now Porsche puts out a car with round (ok, oval) headlights and people complain... To each their own... I like the looks of the new car and to me I do not see it looking like a VW
DonnyJ
Rennlist Stories
The Best Porsche Posts for Porsche Enthusiasts
Porsche's Top 5 Most Questionable Naming Decisions
Verdad Gallardo
Pogea Racing's 964 Porsche 911 Reimagination Stands Out in a Crowded Field
Verdad Gallardo
6 Convertible Top MYTHS Most People Don't Understand!
Michael S. Palmer
2026 Porsche 911 Club Coupe is Spectacular, And Everything Wrong with the Porsche Market
Joe Kucinski
Talos Takes Your 991 Porsche 911 GT3 to the Next Level for a Cool $1.13 Million
Verdad Gallardo
9 Vehicles Porsche Helped Engineer that Aren't Porsches
Verdad Gallardo
9 Features and Characteristics That Only Porsche People Understand
Verdad Gallardo
I've Written 500 Rennlist Articles: Here's How Porsche Has Changed Along the Way
Joe Kucinski
10 Most Unnecessary Porsches Ever Built (And Why We Love Them)
Verdad Gallardo
Burning Brakes
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 761
Likes: 0
From: 2 ends of the Pacific
I personally prefer what my friend is doing: Using a 1st generation body (with NO racy aero kits) and stuffing a 993 engine, drivetrain, suspension with latest generation engine management (motec like).....and deleting anything that weighs something and does nothing. I'm sure it's going to cause some 964, 993, 996, 997 and even GT3 owners to go to their OPC to complain that there's something wrong with their car 
....all the world know is that he is doing a classic car restoration project
....all the world know is that he is doing a classic car restoration project
Rennlist Member
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 4,202
Likes: 0
From: In the pasture.
Praising the looks of a 996 would be to say, she/he has a nice personality. Mechanically, well, that's another story. Advanced tehcnology, etc. But, 996 nor any other street Porsche, today, is hand made. Not since 1998. That makes a big difference. That said, the 997 is a sharp looking car both inside and out. The round headlights look very good, classic Porsche and modern at the same time. Need I remind anyone that there was never, ever, any car made that looked like a classic 911. RUF excluded. Has anyone questioned whether the car coming up behind them was a 996, Boxster or a Mitsubishi? Of course, we all do regularly. The 997 makes me think "new car" again. I saw one, owned by PCNA, and I like it very much. Many of you will, no doubt, agree this is a car that has something for both camps. Nobody will be unhappy with it's 355hp!!!
Intermediate
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: Pittsburgh, PA
Evolution
The 997 is what the 996 should have been all along. The true evolution of the prettiest 911 made until now - the 993. No? Then read the old Porsche literature. Porsche is about EVOLUTION, not revolution.
The 997/911 front end no longer looks like a Dodge Caravan, the goofy "bags under the eyes" headlamps are banished back to the Boxster, and the beyond weird 2002 lamps are just plain banished, the door handles no longer look like they were stolen from a Camry, the Dr. Suess designed dashboard has been replaced with one befitting a 911, the organic fender curves are back with the flares, the car's butt is still kinda big... but it looks much better, on and on.
Know why ALL of this happened? Because us long timers did not like the 996. End of story. And anyone who criticizes another for expressing a personal opiinion on beaty as ignorant - is themselves the ignorant one... If you like 996's, there's good news. The prices have been and will continue to be low for a long time, and for a good reason. They are and always will be FUGLY.
The 997/911 front end no longer looks like a Dodge Caravan, the goofy "bags under the eyes" headlamps are banished back to the Boxster, and the beyond weird 2002 lamps are just plain banished, the door handles no longer look like they were stolen from a Camry, the Dr. Suess designed dashboard has been replaced with one befitting a 911, the organic fender curves are back with the flares, the car's butt is still kinda big... but it looks much better, on and on.
Know why ALL of this happened? Because us long timers did not like the 996. End of story. And anyone who criticizes another for expressing a personal opiinion on beaty as ignorant - is themselves the ignorant one... If you like 996's, there's good news. The prices have been and will continue to be low for a long time, and for a good reason. They are and always will be FUGLY.
Intermediate
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: Pittsburgh, PA
BTW, read the recent Pano or Excellence interviews. The headlamps were done on the cheap, to save money as Porsche was in financial trouble. The current designs are what they wanted to do to begin with...