Headlights Not Working
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2009 C2
Last night we went for a drive and once the sun started to set I noticed none of the interior lights came on and then once I got behind a car I could see that my main lights were not on, only the fog lights. I messed around with the selecter and the only way I can get the exterior lights and the interior lights to turn on is to turn the brights on. I just pulled the fuse panel looked at all the fuses nothing looks loose or broken, mine still has the booklet and there was nothing specific about headlights in it. Going to pull the battery cable and let the car sit for a little bit and then try again hoping it's some weird electric gremlin after my battery died last week, but I am a little stumped, where should I start looking?
Damn thing is turning into a death by papercuts situation, tons of little problems keep popping up.
Thanks for the help
Last night we went for a drive and once the sun started to set I noticed none of the interior lights came on and then once I got behind a car I could see that my main lights were not on, only the fog lights. I messed around with the selecter and the only way I can get the exterior lights and the interior lights to turn on is to turn the brights on. I just pulled the fuse panel looked at all the fuses nothing looks loose or broken, mine still has the booklet and there was nothing specific about headlights in it. Going to pull the battery cable and let the car sit for a little bit and then try again hoping it's some weird electric gremlin after my battery died last week, but I am a little stumped, where should I start looking?
Damn thing is turning into a death by papercuts situation, tons of little problems keep popping up.
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C4SDream (04-11-2024)
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Anything I should be looking for when they are out?
I am pretty sure they are Xenon
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Exactly re/removal.
I'd clean the connector to the light itself with electric contact cleaner like:
You're not throwing any codes? that's particularly weird for both lights not to work simultaneously. Try testing it while it's parked and looking.
Some things with xenons:
There's a "brain" that charges the bulbs, so those can be malfunctioning if the bulb is fine but unlikely for both of them. Big unit inside the casing
The "brights" are a fill bulb that's halogen I believe, so makes sense that this works but your headlights dont...
They autolevel and I have experienced that malfunctioning for either the gears themselves in the headlights burning out, or the leveler on your suspension snapping. This would look like from the driver POV that they're not on, when in reality they're pointing "Down".
I'd clean the connector to the light itself with electric contact cleaner like:
CRC QD 02130 Contact Cleaner
You're not throwing any codes? that's particularly weird for both lights not to work simultaneously. Try testing it while it's parked and looking.
Some things with xenons:
There's a "brain" that charges the bulbs, so those can be malfunctioning if the bulb is fine but unlikely for both of them. Big unit inside the casing
The "brights" are a fill bulb that's halogen I believe, so makes sense that this works but your headlights dont...
They autolevel and I have experienced that malfunctioning for either the gears themselves in the headlights burning out, or the leveler on your suspension snapping. This would look like from the driver POV that they're not on, when in reality they're pointing "Down".
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C4SDream (04-11-2024)
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Exactly re/removal.
I'd clean the connector to the light itself with electric contact cleaner like:
You're not throwing any codes? that's particularly weird for both lights not to work simultaneously. Try testing it while it's parked and looking.
Some things with xenons:
There's a "brain" that charges the bulbs, so those can be malfunctioning if the bulb is fine but unlikely for both of them. Big unit inside the casing
The "brights" are a fill bulb that's halogen I believe, so makes sense that this works but your headlights dont...
They autolevel and I have experienced that malfunctioning for either the gears themselves in the headlights burning out, or the leveler on your suspension snapping. This would look like from the driver POV that they're not on, when in reality they're pointing "Down".
I'd clean the connector to the light itself with electric contact cleaner like:
CRC QD 02130 Contact Cleaner
You're not throwing any codes? that's particularly weird for both lights not to work simultaneously. Try testing it while it's parked and looking.
Some things with xenons:
There's a "brain" that charges the bulbs, so those can be malfunctioning if the bulb is fine but unlikely for both of them. Big unit inside the casing
The "brights" are a fill bulb that's halogen I believe, so makes sense that this works but your headlights dont...
They autolevel and I have experienced that malfunctioning for either the gears themselves in the headlights burning out, or the leveler on your suspension snapping. This would look like from the driver POV that they're not on, when in reality they're pointing "Down".
Could it be the switch? I find it weird the inside lights are not working either unless the high beams are on.
I did recently lower the car, maybe the headlight leveler got smacked but I would assume that would only affect the one that is broken.
No change after cleaning ( cleaned the socket on the headlight and the connection on the car ) Also no change after battery was disconnected.
Is there anyway to test the "brain" in the Xenon headlight?
I rarely ever drive at night so I have no idea how long its been like this. Last night I drove at night was when I bought the car.
This image is of the headlight when the car is running in the home position,
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I really think you'd throw a code if the unit wasn't working...You could grab a multimeter and pull the bulb and check if it's getting power (use gloves)!! If you pull the bulb and it does throw a code at least you know it's somewhere between your headlight and your switch. Can also easily pull out your switch and test the wires with a multimeter - there's plenty of writeups of people retrofitting auto headlight switches that have the pinout.
Lowering the car can definitely effect the auto leveling but not sure why they'd be completely off from my knowledge. Do you hear them engaging when you turn them on? (sounds like a small motor moving). That's the sound of the leveler.
Lowering the car can definitely effect the auto leveling but not sure why they'd be completely off from my knowledge. Do you hear them engaging when you turn them on? (sounds like a small motor moving). That's the sound of the leveler.
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C4SDream (04-12-2024)
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I really think you'd throw a code if the unit wasn't working...You could grab a multimeter and pull the bulb and check if it's getting power (use gloves)!! If you pull the bulb and it does throw a code at least you know it's somewhere between your headlight and your switch. Can also easily pull out your switch and test the wires with a multimeter - there's plenty of writeups of people retrofitting auto headlight switches that have the pinout.
Lowering the car can definitely effect the auto leveling but not sure why they'd be completely off from my knowledge. Do you hear them engaging when you turn them on? (sounds like a small motor moving). That's the sound of the leveler.
Lowering the car can definitely effect the auto leveling but not sure why they'd be completely off from my knowledge. Do you hear them engaging when you turn them on? (sounds like a small motor moving). That's the sound of the leveler.
I can hear the motors moving when the car ignition is switched on.
Here is a video of the lights
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C4SDream (04-12-2024)
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C4SDream (04-12-2024)
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Yup,what Bruce said,if you have 997.2, the headlights do NOT come on in the HOME position. You must go one click to the right to the ON position.
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C4SDream (04-12-2024)
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Porsches have always had separate left and right headlight fuses and relays. For both to not be working, it's something common to both. If the battery disconnect that resets the lighting control module doesn't fix it, my bet is the headlight switch itself which is super easy to remove and inspect or replace.
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C4SDream (04-12-2024)
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C4SDream (04-12-2024)
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Geez, well then if you have to turn the switch all the way to the right for the normal lights to come on then it works.
Bit embarrassing, guess I need to drive more at night lol.
Thanks for the help everyone
Bit embarrassing, guess I need to drive more at night lol.
Thanks for the help everyone
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