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Old 03-12-2024, 10:12 AM
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I a have been considering buying a C2s, its a 2005 50K mikes. It has great service records from the dealer. Below is a little more:
*. Small IMS single row bearing ( no clutch work or IMS work done)
* No oil Leaks
* No smoke when cold start
* From what I see from exhaust no bore scoring (see video)
* Very clean car that runs good

Price is not great but it's a no accident, clean carafe, manual.
I would be upset if I bought and had to put a motor in it quickly

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Old 03-12-2024, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by norcalccd
Hello-
I a have been considering buying a C2s, its a 2005 50K mikes. It has great service records from the dealer. Below is a little more:
*. Small IMS single row bearing ( no clutch work or IMS work done)
* No oil Leaks
* No smoke when cold start
* From what I see from exhaust no bore scoring (see video)
* Very clean car that runs good

Price is not great but it's a no accident, clean carafe, manual.
I would be upset if I bought and had to put a motor in it quickly

Thoughts
If I were the buyer, this video doesn't tell me anything. Sooting tale pipes can be caused by other things. You need to have the engine inspected and that means bore scope of all cylinders, especially bank#2. You also need an ECU reports, fuel trims numbers, camshaft deviations, coolant and oil check to rule out any potential sign of intermix and other wear, etc. IMHO, if you buy this car, you need to make plans to change the IMS bearing because the small single row 6204 is well documented to be the worst of all three.
Old 03-12-2024, 01:33 PM
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It's easy to clean the soot off of a tail pipe(s) so that is no indication of whther the cylinders have scoring.
IMO Bore Scope Inspection and full PPI should be performed.----> DME report for Over Rev's, Cam Deviation Numbers as well as overall condition very important before handing over a payment



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Very good advise.

Borescope the engine.
Plan on doing the IMS bearing soon or immediately.
And might as well head off the AOS, water pump, thermostat, acc belt and pulleys that are required at 60K miles anyway.
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Originally Posted by yelcab
Very good advise.
Borescope the engine.
Plan on doing the IMS bearing soon or immediately.
And might as well head off the AOS, water pump, thermostat, acc belt and pulleys that are required at 60K miles anyway.
Would also make sense to replace the clutch while the transmission is out for IMS replacement - Also have Rear Main Seal replaced it's a $30 part and 10 minutes of labor.

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All great thoughts folks. Makes me think a 991 is the better approach. If it was a steal it might make sense. Thank you
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@norcalccd How do you know it's the easily replaced IMSB? Just engine serial number? Or something else?
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Production date is 4/2004
engine number falls in the guide.
No sign of clutch replaced so it’s probably the original
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Originally Posted by norcalccd
Production date is 4/2004
engine number falls in the guide.
No sign of clutch replaced so it’s probably the original
I only mention it because the engine serial number method isn't always indicative of IMSB size, especially around model/production transitions. Since your date is fairly far from one of those transitions, it probably is small.




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