997.1 Cracked Cylinder Head / Cracked Cylinder - Looking for Recommendations
02-02-2024 | 09:08 AM
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Sorry to hear this. One might ask why didn’t a warning message appear sooner when the unit failed? A drop in pressure, levels, temperature variance, increase in engine temperature gauge, etc. so one could pull over in time and call for assistance?
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02-02-2024 | 09:24 AM
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What about throwing a decent used engine (That has 60 day warranty from install) in the car? Save $20K and have a decent engine that will do what you need.
I see them all the time on Ebay for $8500-$12,000.
Here's one on EBay now:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/25628040369...8AAOSwCiBjasNg
I see them all the time on Ebay for $8500-$12,000.
Here's one on EBay now:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/25628040369...8AAOSwCiBjasNg
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02-02-2024 | 10:49 AM
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This is the frustrating part for me. In hindsight, I should have had the car towed when I realized there was an issue but took false comfort that there were no warning indicators. Overall, I'm kicking myself for not doing the water pump proactively, I had done a lot to mitigate a catastrophic engine issue - scoped the cylinders and did compression tests when I bought the car in 2020, warmed up the engine before going over 3.5k rpm, changed the oil every 12 months even though my mileage was low, etc...While I knew the WP failed, I had no clue it could be this level of destruction. I wish one of my shops would have mentioned this to me, but as I said in an earlier comment, my mechanic relationships had been lacking...
02-02-2024 | 11:50 AM
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This is the frustrating part for me. In hindsight, I should have had the car towed when I realized there was an issue but took false comfort that there were no warning indicators. Overall, I'm kicking myself for not doing the water pump proactively, I had done a lot to mitigate a catastrophic engine issue - scoped the cylinders and did compression tests when I bought the car in 2020, warmed up the engine before going over 3.5k rpm, changed the oil every 12 months even though my mileage was low, etc...While I knew the WP failed, I had no clue it could be this level of destruction. I wish one of my shops would have mentioned this to me, but as I said in an earlier comment, my mechanic relationships had been lacking...
02-02-2024 | 12:10 PM
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02-02-2024 | 12:11 PM
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02-02-2024 | 12:39 PM
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Would you see intermix during an oil change? I ask this because my water pump started leaking last summer, and I've had it replaced along with other items. I drove the car a decent amount (maybe 1000 miles) afterwards, and then before storage did an oil change and didn't notice anything wrong. This thread has me paranoid that there could have been other issues that I didn't notice and should have checked in the summer after taking the car out of storage. What would you guys check?
02-02-2024 | 02:29 PM
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Most important is the warranty offered and experienced Porsche Indy shop that has fair install rates.
Good luck to OP and hope he finds a cost effective solution that suits his budget!
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02-03-2024 | 09:33 AM
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To check for a cracked head, check the inside of your exhaust tips and smell the exhaust from each. If one smells sweet, that is coolant being burned... usually the inside of the exhaust tips will be cleaner than the normal side from scrubbing.
I witnessed this diagnostic procedure at a Porsche dealership a long time ago. A 996 came is... don't remember the complaint or symptoms... the shop foreman told the tech to do the above, the tech said "yep" on both... therefore cracked head.
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To check for a cracked head, check the inside of your exhaust tips and smell the exhaust from each. If one smells sweet, that is coolant being burned... usually the inside of the exhaust tips will be cleaner than the normal side from scrubbing.
I witnessed this diagnostic procedure at a Porsche dealership a long time ago. A 996 came is... don't remember the complaint or symptoms... the shop foreman told the tech to do the above, the tech said "yep" on both... therefore cracked head.
Peace
Bruce in Philly (now atlanta)
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02-03-2024 | 09:57 AM
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02-03-2024 | 10:22 AM
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So what are you going to spend on the next car?
Wouldn't that be about the same outlay as fixing the engine?
Ifso, I would love a new, better, engine with all the nuisance maintenance items taken care of while the engine is out. Should be smooth sailing for 10's of 1,000's of miles.
Wouldn't that be about the same outlay as fixing the engine?
Ifso, I would love a new, better, engine with all the nuisance maintenance items taken care of while the engine is out. Should be smooth sailing for 10's of 1,000's of miles.
02-03-2024 | 12:11 PM
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Gentlemen,
Unfortunately, last week the water pump failed on my 2007 997.1 S with 66k miles. No indicator lights came on until I was about 2 miles from the shop. I did drive it at low speed/RPM/normal TEMP the remaining distance (dumb). Initially, things looked ok and the shop replaced the water pump and also pulleys, belts, and o2 sensors. The shop test drove the car with no issues. Picked the car up and drove home less than 10 miles with no issue. Restarted the car to drive to dinner 30 min later and CEL came on after .2 mile. Took the car back in this morning and after running diametric, the indy informs me there is coolant mixed with the oil - certainly a cracked cylinder head or cracked cylinder. It is at this point I am told to run away from this vehicle ASAP. Selling this car has never crossed my mind but this was the strong recommendation.
Is a full rebuild is the only option to repair?
I'm hoping you all can recommend a course of action to me: Dump the car for whatever I can get at Carmax? Is this good advice? Rebuild the engine for what, $30k? Something else? I bought this car in 2020 and enjoyed every second with it. I had planned on keeping it for the foreseeable future as I love the 997 over all else. It has been a part of the family - my wife cried when she heard the news...
Thank you in advance,
Ditka77
Unfortunately, last week the water pump failed on my 2007 997.1 S with 66k miles. No indicator lights came on until I was about 2 miles from the shop. I did drive it at low speed/RPM/normal TEMP the remaining distance (dumb). Initially, things looked ok and the shop replaced the water pump and also pulleys, belts, and o2 sensors. The shop test drove the car with no issues. Picked the car up and drove home less than 10 miles with no issue. Restarted the car to drive to dinner 30 min later and CEL came on after .2 mile. Took the car back in this morning and after running diametric, the indy informs me there is coolant mixed with the oil - certainly a cracked cylinder head or cracked cylinder. It is at this point I am told to run away from this vehicle ASAP. Selling this car has never crossed my mind but this was the strong recommendation.
Is a full rebuild is the only option to repair?
I'm hoping you all can recommend a course of action to me: Dump the car for whatever I can get at Carmax? Is this good advice? Rebuild the engine for what, $30k? Something else? I bought this car in 2020 and enjoyed every second with it. I had planned on keeping it for the foreseeable future as I love the 997 over all else. It has been a part of the family - my wife cried when she heard the news...
Thank you in advance,
Ditka77
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02-03-2024 | 12:18 PM
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To check for a cracked head, check the inside of your exhaust tips and smell the exhaust from each. If one smells sweet, that is coolant being burned... usually the inside of the exhaust tips will be cleaner than the normal side from scrubbing.
I witnessed this diagnostic procedure at a Porsche dealership a long time ago. A 996 came is... don't remember the complaint or symptoms... the shop foreman told the tech to do the above, the tech said "yep" on both... therefore cracked head.
Peace
Bruce in Philly (now atlanta)
To check for a cracked head, check the inside of your exhaust tips and smell the exhaust from each. If one smells sweet, that is coolant being burned... usually the inside of the exhaust tips will be cleaner than the normal side from scrubbing.
I witnessed this diagnostic procedure at a Porsche dealership a long time ago. A 996 came is... don't remember the complaint or symptoms... the shop foreman told the tech to do the above, the tech said "yep" on both... therefore cracked head.
Peace
Bruce in Philly (now atlanta)