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There are a couple of places where someone is quoting and replying to his posts, but he could easily say that was edited in the reply. Also, no link/VIN so no way to verify it’s the same vehicle or for to even come up on a Google search.
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I deleted because I’m tired of being harassed and insulted and being called a liar. I am not selling this car for a long time and when I do I will tell them to get a bore scope to check the current status.
I am leaving and I’m not coming back. In thirty years on the internet I’ve never encountered such a nasty reception.
I bought a car with a known issue. There are thousands more like it. That’s on me. You can all just stop now.
I am leaving and I’m not coming back. In thirty years on the internet I’ve never encountered such a nasty reception.
I bought a car with a known issue. There are thousands more like it. That’s on me. You can all just stop now.
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I deleted because I’m tired of being harassed and insulted and being called a liar. I am not selling this car for a long time and when I do I will tell them to get a bore scope to check the current status. It’s not my only car and if it ever has serious downtime I can park it and work on it.
I am leaving this place and I’m not coming back. In thirty years on the internet I’ve never encountered such a nasty reception.
I bought a car with a known issue. There are thousands more like it. That’s on me. You can all just stop now.
I am leaving this place and I’m not coming back. In thirty years on the internet I’ve never encountered such a nasty reception.
I bought a car with a known issue. There are thousands more like it. That’s on me. You can all just stop now.
This is better advice----->Maybe ask RL to refund your membership payment. You can use it toward the engine rebuild.
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I simply don’t believe one cylinder having one section scored is a death sentence and the car should be scrapped. I took the advice with a grain of salt and now it’s my problem not anyone’s here.
I’m going to drive it and enjoy it and if it needs substantial work someday I’ll do it.
I’m going to drive it and enjoy it and if it needs substantial work someday I’ll do it.
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Guess you found out the hard way that there are many passionate people here who love to share their knowledge. Some are more concerned about potential issues than others. I’m no expert on bore scoring or other known *potential* issues with these cars, though I think the risks are less severe than some would have you believe. I find myself more in the camp of “assumed risk” when it comes to owning older complex machines. These cars are becoming teenagers now and I can’t think of a single enthusiast car ever made that didn’t have some sort of Achilles heel. Ya buys a ticket, and ya takes a ride. Somebody mentioned BMW vanos earlier. Yup. Air cooled cars had different problems with each iteration. It’s just how it is.
Stick around and document your journey with us. Some good folks here, though as with every niche forum on the intergoogles, everyone’s an expert online. Heck, I can outswim Phelps, outsmart Einstein and out drive Häkkinen, as I’m sure everyone else can who posts here.
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IMO, Now that I've changed my poopy pants, a way to make this a more productive Thread and to help the buyer, IMO the Porsche Dealer who did the Bore Scope Inspection, provided the videos confirming the extremely bad scoring on cylinder#6, sold the buyer an engine warranty for $3600 (which I assume the Salesperson said any Bore Scoring related issues would be covered), should assume all the liability in this matter so the buyer is protected from any Bore Scoring related engine problems.
Does anyone remember the Porsche Dealership selling the car and providing the warranty??
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Does anyone remember the Porsche Dealership selling the car and providing the warranty??
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I clearly have different risk tolerance than the tough guys on this forum. I’m going to drive it until it breaks and then I’m going to fix it. Got the recommended oil from LN and will do frequent changes and oil analysis.
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IMO, Now that I've changed my poopy pants, a way to make this a more productive Thread and to help the buyer, IMO the Porsche Dealer who did the Bore Scope Inspection, provided the videos confirming the extremely bad scoring on cylinder#6, sold the buyer an engine warranty for $3600 (which I assume the Salesperson said any Bore Scoring related issues would be covered), should assume all the liability in this matter so the buyer is protected from any Bore Scoring related engine problems.
Does anyone remember the Porsche Dealership selling the car and providing the warranty??
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Does anyone remember the Porsche Dealership selling the car and providing the warranty??
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You don’t know who did the inspection, nor do you know that they even interpreted it in any way. (Spoiler alert: they probably didn’t.). The salesperson most likely said nothing and had nothing to do with anything remotely related to the warranty. At all. That’s all done in the F&I office. You’d be lucky to find a salesman who knows about bores or how they are scored or what sorts of aftermarket warranty products they offer. Not their monkeys, not their circus.
The warranty is a product that was offered by the F&I rep - just like literally every single car buyer at any franchised dealership is offered. It isn’t likely an “engine” warranty, but an aftermarket car warranty which, as we all know, can vary from excellent to caveat emptor bad. Almost certainly a third-party product, so the dealer has NO DUTY to assume any liability for a condition that MAY arise in the future. The used car monroney almost certainly listed the car sold “as-is, no warranty”. Who knows what was sold and who cares at this point.
Let the guy enjoy the honeymoon period with his car. Chances are it’s going to be fine. If not, as he already stated, he will cross that bridge when he gets there.
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I would love to do just that. But I have no interest in interacting with people who have called me crazy, stupid, or my car a piece of garbage.
I clearly have different risk tolerance than the tough guys on this forum. I’m going to drive it until it breaks and then I’m going to fix it. Got the recommended oil from LN and will do frequent changes and oil analysis.
I clearly have different risk tolerance than the tough guys on this forum. I’m going to drive it until it breaks and then I’m going to fix it. Got the recommended oil from LN and will do frequent changes and oil analysis.
Best of luck with your car. Please don't let this little chapter spoil it for you.
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I would love to do just that. But I have no interest in interacting with people who have called me crazy, stupid, or my car a piece of garbage.
I clearly have different risk tolerance than the tough guys on this forum. I’m going to drive it until it breaks and then I’m going to fix it. Got the recommended oil from LN and will do frequent changes and oil analysis.
I clearly have different risk tolerance than the tough guys on this forum. I’m going to drive it until it breaks and then I’m going to fix it. Got the recommended oil from LN and will do frequent changes and oil analysis.
Love that! You’re not crazy or stupid. Crazy or stupid is not experiencing life, taking risks. Sounds like you have a good handle on things. You did the diligence, weighed the risks, are willing to take the preventative steps - and most importantly - ya get to have the 997 experience in your life. We’re not here that long. No one ever regretted having too much fun in their lives.
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Aubergine I attempted to apologize and show some understanding for coming off strong in the PM I sent you yesterday morning which you didn't respond to:
PM sent:
"I understand I gave you some crap regarding you buying the 997. I undertand the fun/joy/excitement buying a new Porsche - I have done it over 50x in past 38 years.
However seriously consider selling it sooner than later with plenty of time left on warranty for next owner.
That scoring on #6 is bad and only gonna get worse.
Take care, be safe and have fun driving!
All the best"
I do apologize. I just couldn't believe you bought the car after all the communication back and forth about scoring and the bad results of cyl#6
My fault and I take full responsibilty - I just didn't want you to make the same mistake I did 37 years ago when I got amped up and disregarded warning signs when purchasing my first Porsche's.
Your purchase story had many twists and turns and not sure what to believe at this point.
You said the Porsche Dealer was going to do the Bore Scope Inspection and you posted results which showed bad scoring in Cyl#6. and dealer offered you warranty for $3600 which you purchased.
If your story is true, make sure you have written guarantee that the warranty covers engine damage due to Bore Scoring.
Good luck
PM sent:
"I understand I gave you some crap regarding you buying the 997. I undertand the fun/joy/excitement buying a new Porsche - I have done it over 50x in past 38 years.
However seriously consider selling it sooner than later with plenty of time left on warranty for next owner.
That scoring on #6 is bad and only gonna get worse.
Take care, be safe and have fun driving!
All the best"
I do apologize. I just couldn't believe you bought the car after all the communication back and forth about scoring and the bad results of cyl#6
My fault and I take full responsibilty - I just didn't want you to make the same mistake I did 37 years ago when I got amped up and disregarded warning signs when purchasing my first Porsche's.
Your purchase story had many twists and turns and not sure what to believe at this point.
You said the Porsche Dealer was going to do the Bore Scope Inspection and you posted results which showed bad scoring in Cyl#6. and dealer offered you warranty for $3600 which you purchased.
If your story is true, make sure you have written guarantee that the warranty covers engine damage due to Bore Scoring.
Good luck
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I’m interested to hear what happens when it’s time to use the warranty. I hope the OP has the last laugh and gets covered.