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Old 12-01-2023, 04:24 PM
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I dont know. Sounds pretty good to me boss:
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Old 12-01-2023, 04:25 PM
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997.2 with Sharkwerks bypass and IPE Valved Exhaust.....the sound is glorious.
Old 12-01-2023, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ADias
I guess it depends on everyone's aural perception, but my car past 4kRPM sounds purposefully without being obnoxious. It's ridiculous to hear awfully loud exhausts (especially around town) driving no faster than 35MPH.
There's a huge difference between obnoxiously loud exhausts and well tuned ones that sing in the higher rev range and have good, mean (but not antisocial) growls around town.
Old 12-01-2023, 05:04 PM
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Recently when walking from the commuter train to the parking garage a total stranger looked at me and said "Yesterday I thought I felt an earthquake." Without missing a beat I said "Did I happen to drive past you?"....he replied "Yep".
Old 12-01-2023, 06:29 PM
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I have a 2012 GTS with PSE. Added the SW bypass and sounds much better. But the best DFI engine sound came with my 2013 Boxster S with PSE. Best exhaust/intake noise I ever heard, bar none!
Old 12-02-2023, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Ob917
When I had the X pipe and bypass on my car it sounded terrible to me, I actually was embarrassed. To much of that typical Honda fart can sound.
removung the x pipe and just running side mufflers with the bypass is perfect in my opinion.
Sorry but that confuses me. The X pipes IS the bypass so what's the configuration you're referring to? PSE and Sharkwerks together in quiet mode is almost stock quiet to my ears so just curious what you had on your car that made you embarrassed since you can't have two bypass components.
Old 12-02-2023, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by sandwedge
Sorry but that confuses me. The X pipes IS the bypass so what's the configuration you're referring to? PSE and Sharkwerks together in quiet mode is almost stock quiet to my ears so just curious what you had on your car that made you embarrassed since you can't have two bypass components.
Sorry to confuse you. The Gundo hack, it’s a bypass welded in before the side muffler. The X pipe(I had the sharkwerks unit) is a removal.
I agree just the X pipe didn’t really do it for me either, then I did the Gundo hack also and it didn’t sound like a modern sports car more old school. So I tried the modified side mufflers with my factory center muffler and for me that was the ticket. I wouldn’t want it any louder on a cold start.
I wish Akropovic still sold a complete titanium system.

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Old 12-02-2023, 05:08 PM
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Honestly the 2 inch gundo is insane value, even at $500. Now I have a cab so hear it louder than a coupe would allow, I also have the family in the car abou70pc of the time so I don't need crazy loud. It's a very pleasant sound, its quite gruff and tough with zero drone and suits the car perfectly.

Can you do better? Sure, but now youre at $3k.
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I thought I read that gundo hack wasn’t worth doing for the 9a1.

thoughts?
Old 12-02-2023, 11:47 PM
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I found it the perfect solution over the stock sound. If it were just me I'd go for a bit more volume but my car is not just mine, it's family adventure, top down weekend drive car so I wanted more volume but not obnoxious.
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Old 12-03-2023, 12:58 AM
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Like women (or men), a lot is so subjective when it comes to aftermarket exhaust components and systems. What sounds good to one person is ****e to another. I've been around here long enough to know that for most peeps, a CMB is good to sublime, although the aftermarket brands do some slightly different. Sharkwerks is the most popular but there are others. Also, the X-pipe design is also noticeably different than the cross-over design. Check out videos from Fabspeed to notice the difference. They once offered the cross-over design and moved to the X-pipe design.

To up the ante even more, go to straight headers or performance headers with 200-cel cats + CMB. It is even more aggressive and IMO, sounds glorious/perfect with the right amount of volume, growl, and no drone. If you have PSE, it is an actual good use for it because it makes a difference and allows you to drive incognito or get your peacock on.
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Originally Posted by Ob917
Sorry to confuse you. The Gundo hack, it’s a bypass welded in before the side muffler. The X pipe(I had the sharkwerks unit) is a removal.
I agree just the X pipe didn’t really do it for me either, then I did the Gundo hack also and it didn’t sound like a modern sports car more old school. So I tried the modified side mufflers with my factory center muffler and for me that was the ticket. I wouldn’t want it any louder on a cold start.
I wish Akropovic still sold a complete titanium system.
No need to apologize. I'm very familiar with the Gundo hack but it's usually not referred to as a bypass but rather modified side mufflers. So you weren't happy with the $250 to $500 Gundo hack depending on who you go to. They all do the same thing. Some do it better than others based on posts here. Good example of "you get what you pay for". I wouldn't expect the Gundo to sound like the factory PSE for a fraction of the PSE price.
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Old 12-03-2023, 07:38 AM
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You guys all need to sell your .2's for .1's ..... Problem solved !!
Old 12-03-2023, 08:47 AM
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My 997.2 C2S with factory PSE and an added Sharkwerks bypass wasn't loud enough for me. If I kept the car, I would have went for a full system, maybe Tubi. It sounded like a crisp and clean sound when you got above 4k, but I would have preferred a bit more sound throughout the entire rev range. My friends 3.4L Cayman R ( @doworkexotics ) with an FVD exhaust rear section sounds absolutely perfect even though it's a DFI motor. The 991.1 C2S 3.8 also sounds amazing, but that has piped in sound. Even then, the exterior sound on the 991.1 C2S is better.

My 997.1 GT3 with Sharkwerks bypass is what I would consider perfect Porsche sound. Just loud enough, perfect tone.
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Originally Posted by sandwedge
No need to apologize. I'm very familiar with the Gundo hack but it's usually not referred to as a bypass but rather modified side mufflers. So you weren't happy with the $250 to $500 Gundo hack depending on who you go to. They all do the same thing. Some do it better than others based on posts here. Good example of "you get what you pay for". I wouldn't expect the Gundo to sound like the factory PSE for a fraction of the PSE price.
I’m extremely happy with the Gundo hack, that’s what I’m running. I sold my Sharkwerks X pipe.

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