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Old 05-10-2022, 06:57 PM
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I’ve always done summer tires and winter tires on most cars but I’m tired of the storage and messing with it. Was looking for all season tires in 295/30/19 and didn’t see any.

Do 997.2 cars have some weird set up that all season tires just don’t come in or what. Hadn’t researched it previously so no idea what availability was before.
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You can get the COOPER ZEON RS3-G1 in 305/30/19. Seems like a decent all season tire. Probably not very sporty though.
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I see Proxes 4 a/s come in that size .... didn't realize a/s tires were that hard to find.
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Don’t know about size limitations, but the Michelin AS/4 is a great tire, so I’ve heard. I have the AS/3 and love them on my 996. Over 20,000 miles and still going strong. Not the best in snow, but you won’t get stuck. And not the best on the track, but you sure can run hard. They are really good in the wet, dry, hot and cold.
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Originally Posted by Mike Murphy
Don’t know about size limitations, but the Michelin AS/4 is a great tire, so I’ve heard. I have the AS/3 and love them on my 996. Over 20,000 miles and still going strong. Not the best in snow, but you won’t get stuck. And not the best on the track, but you sure can run hard. They are really good in the wet, dry, hot and cold.
looks like they have 235 and 285. I think the 285 would work instead of 295. Mind you, tire rack was trying to tell me 265 would work but that seems off.

also trying to decide whether I’d regret having all seasons on the 911.
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My wife had Michelin pilot sport all season 4 on her 07 Boxster and they were a pretty nice riding and really quite tire, notable for Michelin’s that get pretty loud as they age. If you are used to the quickness, feedback and handling summer tires afford the driving experience you may feel they are lesser tires. We replaced them a couple of months ago with Continentals and found them to be firmer, better handing and enjoyable with the top down.
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Originally Posted by workhurts;[url=tel:18140487
18140487]looks like they have 235 and 285. I think the 285 would work instead of 295. Mind you, tire rack was trying to tell me 265 would work but that seems off.

also trying to decide whether I’d regret having all seasons on the 911.
The 285 should work as long as you keep the total circumference the same so your speedometer and gearing are accurate.

As for regretting all seasons, that depends on your driving style and climate mostly. If you, as a driver, already are pushing the car beyond 8/10th, then you probably don’t want all seasons. I only drive beyond 8/10th on the track, except on highway ramps, and I have no trouble destroying any vehicle on those ramps with my all seasons. Nobody has ever been able to keep up with me. Most of that is the driver to be honest. Not bragging, it’s just that few folks know how to push a car that hard. A never lose traction at WOT, or at threshold braking. The only limitation I have is front-end grip on the track, and a lot of that can be compensated for with a different alignment setting (I run a very street setup with near-zero camber that maximizes tread life at the expense of handling).

As for climate, I live in Chicagoland, where average yearly temps are 55F, where all seasons shine. Plenty of rain here too, and they do well in the rain. Lots of snow plows and salt here, too, and never will get stuck unless the snow is beyond 7” on the ground.

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Yeah. I have summers on this 911, current cayman too and prior cayman. I’ve gone back and forth between summers and A/S on BMWs but never the Porsches. Can’t say I drive much above 7/10ths on the street. I’m in northern Virginia so do get rain and cold weather for a few months where it doesn’t make sense to throw winters on but summers aren’t exactly confidence inspiring either. Just getting tired of storing and swapping winters.

Maybe I’ll throw all seasons on the cayman first before the 911 and see how they feel.

If I do end up going A/S, I’m leaning towards the toyo sport a/s. Doesn’t hurt that they’re under a grand for all 4.
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All seasons typically have a higher treadwear rating as well so ostensibly should last a bit longer than dedicated summers.
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Originally Posted by workhurts;[url=tel:18140584
18140584[/url]]Yeah. I have summers on this 911, current cayman too and prior cayman. I’ve gone back and forth between summers and A/S on BMWs but never the Porsches. Can’t say I drive much above 7/10ths on the street. I’m in northern Virginia so do get rain and cold weather for a few months where it doesn’t make sense to throw winters on but summers aren’t exactly confidence inspiring either. Just getting tired of storing and swapping winters.

Maybe I’ll throw all seasons on the cayman first before the 911 and see how they feel.

If I do end up going A/S, I’m leaning towards the toyo sport a/s. Doesn’t hurt that they’re under a grand for all 4.
I bet you would be happy with all seasons. Here’s what I use to pick a tire: https://m.tirerack.com/tires/tests/t...y.jsp?ttid=280
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Michelin Pilot Sport AS 4 are quite good - I have them on a sports sedan, but I suspect they are not available for the 997.
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I went through this with my 997.2 but ultimately decided to stay with summer tires due to the 285 width being the largest offered in the AS/4. I don’t need the max performance of a full summer tire but did not want to compromise on size and it does affect the OD. While I feel it will work fine, it’s not correct in terms of look (slightly less tire height and fill of the wheel well) nor circumference delta from front to rear.
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Originally Posted by bloomjbmw
I went through this with my 997.2 but ultimately decided to stay with summer tires due to the 285 width being the largest offered in the AS/4. I don’t need the max performance of a full summer tire but did not want to compromise on size and it does affect the OD. While I feel it will work fine, it’s not correct in terms of look (slightly less tire height and fill of the wheel well) nor circumference delta from front to rear.
Toyo Proxes Sport A/S come in 295/30/19
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Originally Posted by bloomjbmw
I went through this with my 997.2 but ultimately decided to stay with summer tires due to the 285 width being the largest offered in the AS/4. I don’t need the max performance of a full summer tire but did not want to compromise on size and it does affect the OD. While I feel it will work fine, it’s not correct in terms of look (slightly less tire height and fill of the wheel well) nor circumference delta from front to rear.
My 997 came with 265/40-18.

The 285 would have been fine, especially for a RWD car.

However I won’t argue someone out of buying summer tires. 🤣😂
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Originally Posted by ATX_Native;[url=tel:18142112
18142112[/url]]My 997 came with 265/40-18.

The 285 would have been fine, especially for a RWD car.

However I won’t argue someone out of buying summer tires. 🤣😂
My 996 also has 265s, and I have no trouble with traction at all. That said, wider tires do look better.


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