ceeyahd1

2007 Porsche 911 Turbo AWD - $109,900

This car is for sale in Portland OR with 30,000 miles MT with 4 previous owners. Looks very clean. is it too overpriced? wasn't sure if it was OK to add the link. Looking to sell or trade in my 2004 996TT.

Petza914

Not in today's market. 997 MT prices are crazy for all models, even regular Carreras. GTSs, Turbos, and GT3s are even crazier. If it was a Tip or PDK, would be $10k (PDK) to $20k (Tip) lower.

soundbehindyou

92 - 94K

maekwl

I pm'ed you a link to a manual 07 with a few k more miles and 10k less price. It has 'minor damage' Not sure to pursue that one but just a comp at the least.

I think 110 is the high side but not INSANE. if its super clean, checks out and checks your boxes go for it

3rdpedal

I'd say yes it is. That seems like it is more 997.2 price territory. I know prices are up, and maybe a 997.2 might be a little higher for an MT with that mileage. But I can't see spending over $100k for a 997.1 Turbo, even as a manual.

ceeyahd1

Same dealer also has a 2007 911T MT with 30K miles in silver and cocoa interior for $99,900. The $109K car is slate bray with black interior which looks much nicer than the silver. Unsure if I should just spend around $125K for a 2014 or 2015. Love my 996TT but I would like a newer interior. Not an expert on the 911's as the 996 is my first 911.

repcapale

Price is reasonable. You are not getting a 997.2 Turbo manual for anywhere near that price.

ceeyahd1

Other than cost, why would one go for a 997.2 over a 997.1?

3rdpedal

A 2007 16k Turbo MT sold on BaT on 8/8 for $88k.
A 2008 34k Turbo MT sold on BaT on 8/4 for $95k.
and a 21k 2010 Turbo 997.2 PDK sold on BaT on 7/7 for $110k as well as a 15k 2009 Turbo 997.2 MT sold on 6/28 for $107k.

So not implausible. There are currently 9 997.2 Turbo Manuals on Autotrader.com for sub $120k and 6 of them are below $105k. So no I would not pay $109k for a 997.1 Manual Turbo. He asked if it was overpriced, and I think it is.

Now if the set of options, ease of purchase, potential trade value, mileage, color, interior, etc. - all of those things fit within the enough right boxes are checked for the buyer, that may be enough to consider over paying a bit. But then I would still do my best to negotiate the price down a little bit.

ceeyahd1

I agree that the price seems a little high. I do not have the patience to sell my car on my own and would prefer trading it in. I live in Eugene OR and I have not seen a single 911 on the road since I moved here 2 month ago so I doubt I will find a local buyer for my 996TT here.

3rdpedal

Oh and Groovzilla who posts in the 997 forums and is quite respected mentioned here that Grand Prix tends to bump their prices pretty high.

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...l#post17319140

Post 12.

That said a pretty sweet looking Slate Grey.

repcapale

I think you are mixed up with the models. Really mixed up. 997.2 Turbo, Manual, Coupe = 3 for sale. 2 are at Ryan Friedman with no price (good luck with that).
Third has 67000 miles for $119k.
Also, the 2009 Turbo is not a 997.2 FYI.

Anyways, back to the 997.1 Turbo. Price is reasonable. Reasonable being the key word.
Do your research and offer what YOU think is reasonable.

ceeyahd1

Prices are firm at GP I was told. I am curious to why one would go with a 997.2 over 997.1 or vice versa.

3rdpedal

I guess I will just disagree with you. I don't think that the price is reasonable. As to the expectations, yes, 997.2 manual turbos will range in price with the prices reaching into the $130-150k range, especially for excellent condition and lower mileage. But beyond that, I also think that this 2007 is too high priced. And I would caution the OP against potentially overpaying at GP Motors which is the advice the OP is after. Your counsel is contradictory to that. Your right to that opinion. Values on 997.2s vs 997.1s is probably irrelevant after all to the OP as the car is a 2007.

Petza914

Clarifying - the 2009 997 Turbo is not really a .1 or a .2 - it's a crossover model. It has the 997.1 Mezger engine design with the 997.2 PCM audio interface and some other updates to the .2s. To me, it's the optimal year of the 997.2 where you can own a little bit of that Mezger engine history and not have to deal with normal DFI shenanigans (fuel dilution, carbon build-up, etc). If I were shopping for a 997 Turbo, 2009 is the year I'd seek out and buy, just like I did for my Cayenne.