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Old Aug 17, 2021 | 05:58 PM
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Don't understand that one.....
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Old Aug 17, 2021 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by carbonduc27
It is a total clickbait article. How is it going to list EVERY other year Porsche 911 is a great buy except 2009..... Why pick on the 2009, I can name some other years I would avoid more than a 2009.

From article:These models have had very few complaints and suffer from minor issues at worst.
  • 1963 Porsche 911
  • 1964 - 1970 Porsche 911
  • 1971 - 1980 Porsche 911
  • 1981 Porsche 911
  • 1982 Porsche 911
  • 1984 - 1990 Porsche 911
  • 1991 - 2000 Porsche 911
  • 2001 - 2008 Porsche 911
  • 2010 Porsche 911
  • 2011 Porsche 911
  • 2012 Porsche 911
  • 2013 Porsche 911
  • 2014 Porsche 911
  • 2015 Porsche 911
  • 2016 Porsche 911
  • 2017 Porsche 911
  • 2018 Porsche 911
  • 2019 Porsche 911
  • 2020 Porsche 911
We recommend purchasing any of the aforementioned Porsche 911 year models. Most have no complaints whatsoever, and if they do, they’re extremely minor. For example, the only complaint in the 2002 year model is a broken seat belt, which can be fixed for only $400. Nearly any used Porsche 911 you buy is highly unlikely to give you any trouble.
Lol, the person making this list is pretty dang clueless. The 2009 had a pretty decent release. The 996 release for the normally aspirated motors was a disaster from day one. First, cars were getting lemmoned left and right due to RMS leaks Porsche could not seem to resolve that at first without doing buy backs on a large scale. Then came IMS and cars literally dying left and right. D-Chunk and etc. killing motors. Now scoring. I had 3 of the 996 twin turbos which had great engines, unlike the NA 996s, but those had electrical issues such as PCMs and instrument panel failures that were expensive and mechanical items such as master and slaves cylinders that created $4,000 + hose repairs maybe 3 times.

The 997.1s . . . well according to Flat Six Innovation guys, these cars have bad engines that will likely all have catastrophic failures and need replacement or rebuild. These cars also have little pesky problems well documented on here.

The 997.2, high pressure fuel pump is the only true weakness I know of. PDKs have failed, but manauls will also fail and needing rebuilds or new synchros over time.

I owned many air cooled cars as well. Always working on those, but at least they are easy ton access and work on.

The 997.2 including the 2009, is by the far the best and most reliable 911 prior to 2012 I owned or know of.
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Old Aug 17, 2021 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by orangeblood18
I didn't say anything.... Just read this on our "trusty" internet. See below. Everything is true if the internet says it, right? Just curious if you guys are seeing any of these problems. Thinking about pulling the trigger on one so just want to feel confident. I understand it's a 2009 sports car and problems can happen...

https://www.copilotsearch.com/posts/...-911-to-avoid/
Lol, this is some generic car shopping APP that someone probably spent all of 15 minutes building that page who probably was completely clueless and never owned a Porsche. Probably just paid someone in India or one of those generic internet writers like $5 an hour to draft the article or building the web content. That entire page is pretty bad/useless actually.

This site is pretty comical. The issues they report with the 2009 are stalling and leaking hoses? Huh, stalling or hesitation may be an issue with the 997.1 and leaking hose perhaps with the Mezger turbos which were built 2001 through 2009.

This is super funny:

"For example, the only complaint in the 2002 year model is a broken seat belt, which can be fixed for only $400."

This is definitely some girl blog writer from India doing minimal research just for content. The 2002 had a super high rate of failure on RMS. I remember it well and my wife back then had a 2003 NA 996 while I had my 3 turbo 996s. The 2002s then started dying left and right (as did many NA 996s) due to IMS failures causing catastrophic engine failures and now there are a litany of other engine problems reported with these cars. Instrument cluster was a common and very expensive failure on the earlier 996s as was PCM units.
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Old Aug 17, 2021 | 10:30 PM
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This is just an anecdotal observation after putting about 60K miles in three years on grandpas low mileage 09 garage queen - the thing is a money pit! Tires, oil, serpentine belt, windshield wipers and washer fluid by the gallon, prolly need brake pads next. It just never ends! But when it does I'm gonna get another one
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Old Aug 17, 2021 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by tapcon
This is just an anecdotal observation after putting about 60K miles in three years on grandpas low mileage 09 garage queen - the thing is a money pit! Tires, oil, serpentine belt, windshield wipers and washer fluid by the gallon, prolly need brake pads next. It just never ends! But when it does I'm gonna get another one
In other words, standard maintenance!!!

Approaching 142K miles on my 2010 C4S PDK built in August 2009. Most reliable car I've ever owned and that includes Honda, Toyota, and another 98 or so new and used vehicles. I DIY and my cost per mile not including gas, registration, or insurance is at 16 cents. That will go up as I refresh my suspension and add a third radiator (wish list stuff). Most parts on my car are still original. What's been replaced?

Front axle boot, damaged by chip seal. Not the car's fault.

Front upper strut mounts ... at 120K miles these wore out early due to the AWD geometry.

Front computer ... static or?

Standard maintenance items.

Yep, that's it.
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Old Aug 18, 2021 | 12:19 AM
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2010 is a recommended buy, yet they changed little to nothing from '09. Interesting
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Old Aug 18, 2021 | 12:25 AM
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Thanks for all the information. I appreciate the help. I am new to the 997.2 generation and just wanted to be sure before I purchased the car. Thank you again.

Now how can I delete this topic becauseit is obviously internet BS???🤣
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Old Aug 18, 2021 | 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug H
Lol, the person making this list is pretty dang clueless. The 2009 had a pretty decent release. The 996 release for the normally aspirated motors was a disaster from day one. First, cars were getting lemmoned left and right due to RMS leaks Porsche could not seem to resolve that at first without doing buy backs on a large scale. Then came IMS and cars literally dying left and right. D-Chunk and etc. killing motors. Now scoring. I had 3 of the 996 twin turbos which had great engines, unlike the NA 996s, but those had electrical issues such as PCMs and instrument panel failures that were expensive and mechanical items such as master and slaves cylinders that created $4,000 + hose repairs maybe 3 times.

The 997.1s . . . well according to Flat Six Innovation guys, these cars have bad engines that will likely all have catastrophic failures and need replacement or rebuild. These cars also have little pesky problems well documented on here.

The 997.2, high pressure fuel pump is the only true weakness I know of. PDKs have failed, but manauls will also fail and needing rebuilds or new synchros over time.

I owned many air cooled cars as well. Always working on those, but at least they are easy ton access and work on.

The 997.2 including the 2009, is by the far the best and most reliable 911 prior to 2012 I owned or know of.
Yes I had the high pressure fuel pump fail at around 40K miles on my 2011 GTS. Service advisor said it was a recall item so it was replaced at no cost. Which is where confusion sets in. I've read posts here of others who had the same failure on 997.2 cars and they had to pay for it. This has been discussed before but I haven't been able to find any kind of consensus on whether the HPFP is a general recall item on 997.2's or not. I got mine replaced for free while others had to pay for it. Could be related to MY but it makes no sense that a 2011 pump would be a recall item but earlier MY failures were not. Doesn't recall items typically apply to early models with a poorly designed part which most often is quickly improved? Not to later, close to end of production MY cars which was the case with my failure.

And I agree completely with your reliability comment on the 997.2 including MY 2009.
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Old Aug 18, 2021 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug H
but manauls will also fail and needing rebuilds or new synchros over time.
Never heard of this before. Anyone here had this issue on 997.2 and had to rebuild the MT transmission ?
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Old Aug 18, 2021 | 12:01 PM
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I specifically searched for a 997.2 because it is one of the most reliable Porsches ever built (and I have had many starting in 1978)
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Old Aug 18, 2021 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 911-997
Never heard of this before. Anyone here had this issue on 997.2 and had to rebuild the MT transmission ?
My second gear synchro would grind occasionally. Fairly common is my understanding.
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Old Aug 18, 2021 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 911-997
Never heard of this before. Anyone here had this issue on 997.2 and had to rebuild the MT transmission ?
Yes, only one. I corresponded with a guy who was getting the first gear jam. He was unaware PTX fluid change may help... but by the time we were chatting, the car was at the dealership. He said, per the dealer, the 1st gear jam was a known issue and Porsche had a kit for some transmission internals. This was the first and only time I ever heard about this. I never heard from him again... I pinged him once or twice... I also don't know what they charged him.

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Old Nov 24, 2025 | 07:11 AM
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FWIW,, I've owned several vehicles with Getrag transmissions,, they were all noisy, and first and second gear always the ones that failed eventually (Several made it over 200K so .....) Sometimes its just the way it is..

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Originally Posted by soundbehindyou
I specifically searched for a 997.2 because it is one of the most reliable Porsches ever built (and I have had many starting in 1978)
indeed, by all objective accounts.
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Old Nov 24, 2025 | 08:46 PM
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I bought a 997.2 C2 with 98K miles on it. I sold it with 132K miles on it a little over two tears later. It was a trouble-free car for me. I did replace the front wheel bearings and performed just routine maintenance over those 34k miles I owned it. It should be noted that the PDK had been rebuilt 2K miles before I purchased the car.
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